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Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:42 pm to tketaco
A woman at church used to bring her anxiety service dog
Weird as frick
Weird as frick
Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:45 pm to brass2mouth
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Then you go see a dr for the help you need, the help they wanted you to get and pushed on you and you hit up personnel and find out your ineligible to reup or cross train to another career field b/c you got help.
I know this is true and Man I am really sorry to hear this. Then on the other side you have civilians who decide on their own whether or not you have a legitimate disability. Veterans get it coming and going, it sucks..
Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:47 pm to sicboy
Friend of mine was denied by her employer the use of her service dog for her diabetes. No problem. About a dozen or so phone calls got a bill through the legislature that banned them from doing that to her.
When I was in France last year I saw dogs EVERYWHERE but you know what? Their dogs all knew how to behave and you didn't have pit or rotty types turned loose either.
When I was in France last year I saw dogs EVERYWHERE but you know what? Their dogs all knew how to behave and you didn't have pit or rotty types turned loose either.
This post was edited on 7/8/14 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:51 pm to Mulat
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civilians who decide on their own whether or not you have a legitimate disability. Veterans get it coming and going, it sucks..
with all due respects Mulat, that area is gamed too, I know of a vet getting a certain % of disability for cutting himself with his pocket knife while fishing out in the basin, as he was of the Viet Nam era, although he never left the states during the war, he is classified as a Viet Nam era, disabled vet, and has certain set asides that he is entitled to, he's not disabled in any way, but has been classified as such
Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:51 pm to Mulat
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I know this is true and Man I am really sorry to hear this. Then on the other side you have civilians who decide on their own whether or not you have a legitimate disability. Veterans get it coming and going, it sucks..
Yeah it sucked...hard. I was 4 months removed from my last deployment with 0 plans on getting out (no job hunting, house hunting, nothing) and was looking to go into a different career field then this bomb got dropped on me. And it has happened to I would guess, 1 in 5 that seek treatment.
I don't necessarily have a problem with civilians doing the evaluations, obviously there aren't enough veterans or military members themselves that could staff those places so thats an issue. Even still with mil docs you could be sitting there talking to a guy in uniform that has never been outside the states much less outside the wire that could be as bad or worse than a civilian evaluating you.
sorry for the hijack, please continue talking about service err.. "service dogs."
Posted on 7/8/14 at 6:07 pm to brass2mouth
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I don't necessarily have a problem with civilians doing the evaluations,
I am OK with this too, I am talking people who say they support the war and say they support the people who served. But as the war winds down and those who served need continued care then there are complaints of gaming the system.
Civilians have no clue what veterans must go through to just file a claim must less to get approved for one.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 6:12 pm to Mulat
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there are complaints of gaming the system.
I've been in a war zone on behalf of this country, I just question things, and in any scenario, you will find people that try to game the system, and you will find beaureaucrats that enable it
Posted on 7/8/14 at 6:18 pm to 777Tiger
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you will find people that try to game the system, and you will find bureaucrats that enable it
yes there is no Perfect system, never will be, there will always be those folks that live on the edge of credibility, they are the minority far and wide.
I have to say I find your bureaucrats comment interesting. So if a government worker does their job they are enabling.
This post was edited on 7/8/14 at 6:23 pm
Posted on 7/8/14 at 6:23 pm to Mulat
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yes there is no Perfect system, never will be, there will always be those folks that live on the edge of credibility, they are the minority far and wide.
thanks for your insight
Posted on 7/8/14 at 6:28 pm to 777Tiger
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thanks for your insight
Thanks for talking. I guess I want you and everyone to know I have worked with thousands of
good honest dependable people who were veterans with disabilities, mostly psychiatric as that is my field.
I want you to know very few did I meet that I would classify as cheats, liars and dishonest folk, but there are some.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 6:39 pm to Rox
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Emotional support animals and their humans are fine by me.
I like the animals. The humans, I could do without.
Just want to be on your good side Pox.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 7:34 pm to jbgleason
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"Support Animal"
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because it barked and lunged at me to bite.
Those 2 things do not belong together.
True service animals are creepy to watch work. If trained properly shite like that does not happen.
I saw one at work one time. I am a moron so I smile at it and make a typical "person to dog noise". It gave me a half wag and then tuned its head down and went into "work mode."
Posted on 7/8/14 at 7:38 pm to Mulat
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I want you to know very few did I meet that I would classify as cheats, liars and dishonest folk, but there are some.
I meant no disrespect to you by using the term bureaucrat, it was a misused term, I really had in mind the sleazy politicians that provide lip service and bandaids to legitimate problems in order to further their own agenda
BTW: are you a Psychiatrist, Clinical Psychologist, both? and are you at the VA on Military Trail?
Posted on 7/8/14 at 7:47 pm to 777Tiger
Social Worker, Psychiatric Training at Tulane
30 years in the field, Heroin Addiction, General Family Practice, Trauma Work with Policeman, Firefighters, Paramedics and Emergency Room Personnel, was part of the National Disaster Medical System that responds to tragedy such as Hurricanes with significant damage and loss of life.
Involved in the treatment of PTSD and Readjustment Problems at three VA Vet Centers - Pensacola, Charlotte and Charleston. - Retired
Helicopter pilot Vietnam - Cambodia, 5 yrs active duty, flew in the National Guard as well.
30 years in the field, Heroin Addiction, General Family Practice, Trauma Work with Policeman, Firefighters, Paramedics and Emergency Room Personnel, was part of the National Disaster Medical System that responds to tragedy such as Hurricanes with significant damage and loss of life.
Involved in the treatment of PTSD and Readjustment Problems at three VA Vet Centers - Pensacola, Charlotte and Charleston. - Retired
Helicopter pilot Vietnam - Cambodia, 5 yrs active duty, flew in the National Guard as well.
This post was edited on 7/8/14 at 9:17 pm
Posted on 7/8/14 at 8:10 pm to Mulat
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30 years in the field, Heroin Addiction, General Family Practice, Trauma Work with Policeman, Firefighters, Paramedics and Emergency Room Personnel, was part of the National Disaster Medical System that responds to tragedy such as Hurricanes with significant damage and loss of life.
you've seen a lot, and that cannot be an easy job, particularly when separating work from staying with you after you leave the office, again, I meant no disrespect, in fact just the opposite, thanks for the talk, and thanks for your service
BTW: I've a friend with the state in a very similar position, or at least from your description, in Bossier, I think he's coming up on forty years in the field, I think it takes a special talent to do what you guys do
Posted on 7/8/14 at 8:15 pm to 777Tiger
Posted on 7/8/14 at 8:35 pm to drunkenpunkin
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The lady I know with one just had her regular dog registered as one so she could take it everywhere with her
She in Baton Rouge with a big white dog and made her dog it's own FB page?
Posted on 7/8/14 at 9:07 pm to mikelbr
No. But I totally wouldn't put it past her if she didn't suck at technology.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 9:35 pm to PuntBamaPunt
Some "emotional support" animals are service animals as long as it is a protected disability. Such as PTSD. The dog does not need to be certified, it only needs to be trained to assist in the disability of that person. That disability doesn't have to be blindness or any physical disability, it can definitely be psychiatric.
People do abuse the system with psychological disabilities that don't require it, but people abuse everything.
People do abuse the system with psychological disabilities that don't require it, but people abuse everything.
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