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re: Emergency room doctors beg for help treating children with mental health illnesses

Posted on 8/19/23 at 8:53 am to
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 8/19/23 at 8:53 am to
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Good Job, women and soy boy Doctors. Behold your creations


All those women presidents and policymakers really screwed this country up, right? If only we had a Time Machine and could elect male leaders instead.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296383 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 8:54 am to
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All those women presidents and policymakers


Its the mob, the feminist mob that creates the narratives.

Changing boys to girls and girls to boys, locking kids out of classrooms will have terrible affects on children.
This post was edited on 8/19/23 at 8:59 am
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 8:56 am to
People act like the Democrats are failing…but this is a feature, not a bug.
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6189 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 8:57 am to
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All those women presidents and policymakers really screwed this country up, right? If only we had a Time Machine and could elect male leaders instead.


It's cute that you think the President has anything to do with policy in this country. The bureaucracy machine has more sway over policy in this country than a figurehead in the white house.

There has also been a concerted effort in academia toward ideological leftist policy churning out socialist and cultural Marxist ideocrats.
This post was edited on 8/19/23 at 9:00 am
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
20487 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 8:59 am to
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Last summer, I told my 11 and 8 year olds to leave the house on their bikes for two hours a day. There were never any kids out to play with. Our neighborhood is very safe. We rob kids of opportunities to learn independence and then wonder why the real world seems unbearable.


I’ve been planning on making a post asking for help here. My son (10) is blessed to have a good group of friends his age in the neighborhood. Their families are 100% fine with letting them play videogames every time they hang out. We can have perfect 70 degree spring/fall weather, and their boys just want to sit in front of a screen. I also found out that this summer, they often played videogames or watched TV pretty much all day long.

When they come to our house, I’ve tried to organize games or play outside. Thing is, I can’t play camp counselor all the time. I also try not to be a weird “almond dad” that forbids screen time. But if something is fun over here outside or even active inside, they’ll play. If I’m not directly organizing and managing it, my son’s friends want to go back to their houses to sit in front of screens.

So it’s impacted my son as well. His neighborhood social life is spent predominantly in front of screens with his friends. It’s weird.
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6189 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 9:02 am to
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So it’s impacted my son as well. His neighborhood social life is spent predominantly in front of screens with his friends. It’s weird.


It's very difficult. Try to get your son involved in a sport. Some after school activity like football will get him in a more active friend group. Even if it's only a couple hours a day after school, it's better than nothing.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27576 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 9:12 am to
Think about the children!!!

It’s a necessary tactic to tug at the heart and purse strings. Mental health OVERALL needs an overhaul. The moderate to large ER I worked in Houston near daily had 2-4 psych patients who needed inpatient psych. They were housed for anywhere from 48 to 100 plus hours. This was daily with a spike in summer and holidays.

All the resources of the 4th largest city in the US. Can’t imagine what is done in ERs in cities like Monroe or Nacogdoches. Name a middle sized to smallish city in the US that is still the hub for a rural area.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
20487 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 9:21 am to
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It's very difficult. Try to get your son involved in a sport. Some after school activity like football will get him in a more active friend group. Even if it's only a couple hours a day after school, it's better than nothing.


He does soccer and basketball. He and I also workout twice a week together and he’s active with his little sister quite often. We’re doing all we can, but it’s those close friendships with boys his age that will really shape him. At least that’s how it was for me growing up.
This post was edited on 8/19/23 at 9:22 am
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
44889 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 9:24 am to
We need to bring back mental health institutions. I don’t know what can be done to ensure the same mistakes aren’t made but the need for the facilities is real.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58988 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 9:24 am to
I read something recently that basically said it’s all about parents 0-12 or so, then friends and even friends’ parents have more impact than parents from 12 and up
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
64008 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 9:26 am to
American College of Emergency Physicians is a woke organization that I quite about 20 years ago.

And treating all mental illness in the ER has always been a problem. The solution is pay Psychiatrist more money to come to evaluate Pts in the ER.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296383 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 9:28 am to
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I read something recently that basically said it’s all about parents 0-12 or so, then friends and even friends’ parents have more impact than parents from 12 and up


Yep, 13-14 is when peers replace parents as the primary influence.
This post was edited on 8/19/23 at 9:29 am
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3761 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 9:29 am to
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Our Country definitely needs more mental health aid. We have a huge need.


Vastly more importantly: our country needs to accurately discern the root cause(s) of this relative explosion in mental health problems and treat that.

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, etc.

Though truth be told, I don’t think our collective society/government has the will power to actually do anything anymore ; it’s all bandaids and bullshite zombie meds all the way down to rock-bottom.

I sure wish that we could get rid of social-media.

/Ramble Off
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
106166 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 9:31 am to
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And treating all mental illness in the ER has always been a problem. The solution is pay Psychiatrist more money to come to evaluate Pts in the ER.


It’s not the pay. It’s the number of psychs to begin with. Not many folks want to go through to get that PhD and be saddled with the debt. Add in the liability of being a psychiatrist, there’s a significant shortage of them. You wouldn’t have anywhere near the required number to fulfill that obligation in every ER.

It’s also why in a lot of areas neuropsych testing is a one year or better wait. You have to have some pretty specific education and be working towards licensure to do it. I considered it at one point but the pay as a psych tech is damn near half of what I’m making now.

ETA: Doing psych evals in the ER can also lead to quick burnout.
This post was edited on 8/19/23 at 9:33 am
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
106166 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 9:36 am to
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Vastly more importantly: our country needs to accurately discern the root cause(s) of this relative explosion in mental health problems and treat that.


COVID accelerated it, but we’ve been dealing with a large group of parents that never learned how to have good emotion regulation and therefore have depended on anyone/anything else to teach their kids emotion regulation. It’s the same reason schools have become more than just education centers. You now have to feed kids, clothe kids, provide social/emotional learning, etc.

You have parents who don’t want to take away their kids iPad because they don’t want to parent. Or they don’t want to discipline their kid because they don’t want to “upset them”.

It starts at home. Everyone wants to blame literally everything else but they don’t want to take responsibility for what happens in their own homes.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72174 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 9:37 am to
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Three influential groups of pediatricians and emergency medicine providers are pleading for more support and resources as the number of children and teenagers with mental health concerns overwhelm emergency departments nationwide.


More and more alarm bells of the coming catastrophe for our society are ringing louder and louder. And yet, most don’t even seem to notice there is anything wrong.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77763 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 9:38 am to
Shut up
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
106166 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 9:40 am to
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So it’s impacted my son as well. His neighborhood social life is spent predominantly in front of screens with his friends. It’s weird.


Well and like you said, unless ALL of the parents collectively decide to force their kids off screens you’re fighting a losing battle. But it’ll be worth it when your kid has better emotion regulation than his peers later on. So keep fighting the good fight.

There’s far too many parents who are perfectly ok (or too fricking paranoid) with their kid just sitting in front of a screen all day. They don’t want to let their kids be bored because that means they’d have to be more than a passive parent.
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14797 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 9:43 am to
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Well, here's an idea. Don't go to the emergency room for psychiatric care, or to buy tires. Don't go for a runny nose, or your foot that began hurting a tiny bit two years ago. Go to the emergency room for emergency medical conditions.


That’s the point of the article. They don’t have anywhere to go. More resources are desperately needed.

Try educating yourself before you act so confident in your response.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72174 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 9:45 am to
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Shut up


Sorry you find inconvenient truths to be uncomfortable.
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