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re: Ellen wants to make you think he's all about love, diversity, and inclusion

Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:59 am to
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:59 am to
How dare you use common sense on the OT.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:00 am to
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well it used to be against the law to be gay... subjective legal laws aren't good cases when making an argument "its ok to be gay bc they are born that way"... people are born all kinds of fricked up ways, and now you want to be subjective on which ones to accept or not accept.



Pedophilia will never be legalized. There is a clear victim there. There are no victims with homosexual relationships. Seriously, remember the national outrage at the Sandusky case? Only pedophiles (and particularly deranged ones at that) want pedophilia legalized. No one else wants a 40 year old man having sex with an 8 year old boy.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:02 am to
I know a gay dude that killed himself when I was a kid. He worked with my mom and tried his best to not be gay. He was a devout Christian and believed every thought he had was a sin. It was very sad to hear my mom talk about him as he was such a nice man but he hated himself, all because he thought he was going to hell. He undoubtedly did not choose to be gay.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:03 am to
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Everyone knew my little cousin was gay at age 6


My wife's step brother who is 18 is without a doubt going to be a gay. We've been knowing this for quite some time now.
His older trash sister tried dabbling with ladies for a little while. His father is uncomfortably affectionate at times to people, and his best fried is a gay. His mother is a trash as they come and they've been separated for quite some time now with a lot of custody and other crap going on the last 10 years with that.

Was he really born gay, or did his surroundings lead him to that lifestyle?

Are pedophiles born that way, or does their fricked up life lead them to that, since I would bet most of them had fricked up childhoods?

Was a guy really born wanting to frick a sheep, or has things in his life lead him to do something that fricked up?

Was a guy really born a murderer, or did things in his life lead him that way?

You can almost always trace back something in their past that led them that way.

I 'll say that some gays cant help being gay, but it's not b/c they were born that way, but rather led to that lifestyle and it's sort of ingrained in them so it doesn't appear to be a choice they are making.

You know that fricking another guy isn't natural, that doesn't have to be taught. You know that fricking a dog isnt' natural. You know that fricking your sister isn't natural. Only 1 of the 3 things I just said is acceptable now, but what's different about them? 2 will get you arrested while one of them is shoved into your face everywhere you look now.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:04 am to
there are countries in this world that have a legal consent age of 13. all subjective.
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:04 am to
It's not a crock of shite, it's environment. It's what shapes all of us.

Where did I say anything about punishing anyone or treating homosexuals differently in any manner?
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:05 am to
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The singer faced a backlash after a YouTube video posted on Dec. 30 showed Burrell delivering a sermon at the Love & Liberty Fellowship Church in Houston, where is a senior pastor. In the clip, Burrell condemns homosexuality as “perverted” and an “embarrassment.”


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homophobic


Haven't seen the clip but I don't think this is "homophobic".
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:07 am to
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there are countries in this world that have a legal consent age of 13. all subjective.



And those cultures are wrong. A 13 year should not be having sex, even with other 13 year olds. 16 should be the minimum.
Posted by mynamebowl
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:08 am to
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Yet another example of how "tolerance" isn't enough. You will accept, or suffer the consequences.


What exactly is the general public forced to tolerate when it comes to gay dudes or lesbos?

I'm the furthest thing from PC police guy, but this is different dude. Tolerance is such a poor choice of words for issues like these. To me, tolerance implies that one of the 2 parties involved has to put up with something or suffer some kind of consequence. There's nothing to "accept" here and there are no consequences except that in this situation, some crazy bitch got uninvited to a stupid talk show.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:09 am to
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And those cultures are wrong. A 13 year should not be having sex, even with other 13 year olds. 16 should be the minimum.



Well, what does human biology tell us?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:09 am to
centuries ago, they used to get married between ages of 13-16.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:10 am to
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centuries ago, they used to get married between ages of 13-16.



That's because they died when they were 30.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:12 am to
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Well, what does human biology tell us?



I'm more concerned about human psychology than biology when it comes to this. Sure, many women are capable of popping out a kid when they turn 12, but no way is a kid ready for that.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:13 am to
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That's because they died when they were 30.



human physics doesn't change, kids are becoming more advanced younger these days.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:14 am to
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I'm more concerned about human psychology than biology when it comes to this. Sure, many women are capable of popping out a kid when they turn 12, but no way is a kid ready for that.



That's arguably due to societal conditions and expectations. Such attitudes can change.

Do you think if a cataclysmic event occurred, and only 30,000 people were left on Earth, do you think people over time would take such a stringent stance on the issue?
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:16 am to
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human physics doesn't change, kids are becoming more advanced younger these days.



What the frick are you talking about? Advanced? You mean knowledgable? Better healthcare? Can fix a computer? Human physics.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:16 am to
There are studies available regarding small children who have "gay tendencies". I can't dig up the one I read months back but I simply googled so I'm sure you could find it. These are kids, say 6-10 years old, who play with toys meant for the opposite sex and things like that. I think many are born that way, but also agree with you in that many are shaped by their surroundings. I'll dig around shortly to see if I can find the one article on particular.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:17 am to
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There are studies available regarding small children who have "gay tendencies". I can't dig up the one I read months back but I simply googled so I'm sure you could find it. These are kids, say 6-10 years old, who play with toys meant for the opposite sex and things like that. I think many are born that way, but also agree with you in that many are shaped by their surroundings. I'll dig around shortly to see if I can find the one article on particular.



Nothing a good old-fashioned butt-whooping won't fix. *tobaccy spit*
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:18 am to
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Do you think if a cataclysmic event occurred, and only 30,000 people were left on Earth, do you think people over time would take such a stringent stance on the issue?



No, because that puts us back in the Dark Ages where we have to bust out as many kids as possible to get us back on track. We live in a more civilized time than you are describing. Psychological issues would be secondary compared to the survival of the species.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:19 am to
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Psychological issues would be secondary compared to the survival of the species.



I don't disagree, but my point is psychological capability, strength, and endurance are malleable.

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