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re: Electric vehicles

Posted on 6/11/22 at 8:26 pm to
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
37926 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 8:26 pm to
We charged my friend's model X on a 110v and it was getting 8 milea of range per hour. Not good but there are a lot of 110s out there
Posted by Locoguan0
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2017
7034 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 8:34 pm to
If you go ev, then it is best to invest in solar. Tesla system with Powerwall is optimized to charge a Tesla vehicle.
Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
8205 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 9:52 pm to
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Depends on the size and efficiency of the generator used, but generally a gallon burned to run a generator and charge an EV will drive it further than the same gallon burned directly in an ICE vehicle. This is why series hybrids exist.


LOFL
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29044 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:21 pm to
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Depends on the size and efficiency of the generator used, but generally a gallon burned to run a generator and charge an EV will drive it further than the same gallon burned directly in an ICE vehicle. This is why series hybrids exist.
LOFL
What's funny?
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:34 pm to
Why not have both?
Or is that too difficult for the binary thinking folks?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61987 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:46 pm to
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big enough generator?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29044 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:50 pm to
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a day or two after every hurricane one of the first places to open back up in BR is the gas station.Yes you might have to wait in line but that station was always open a day or two after the hurricane past.
If they're pumping gas then they have electricity too. And as long as the natgas is flowing there are at least 20 places to charge in my neighborhood.
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The Real Question is what happens if SE La evacuates in an EV? If I-10 / I-55 /US61 are plugged up with vehicles trying to evac can a EV make it to Hammond before it dies ?
Most likely since you would get a full charge overnight like most nights, and electric motors are more efficient than ICE in stop and go traffic and don't waste fuel/charge while idling.
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Also remember people are going to want the AC on and are probably carrying children, a few suitcases , and a dog.
The AC isn't a big deal, burns about 5 miles of range per hour. Idling in a sedan burns 1/4 to 1/2 gallon per hour so probably a bit more than 5 miles there.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30790 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:55 pm to
The infrastructure isn’t here yet for EV. Biden is a fricking idiot.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
81952 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 11:01 pm to
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The Real Question is what happens if SE La evacuates in an EV? If I-10 / I-55 /US61 are plugged up with vehicles trying to evac can a EV make it to Hammond before it dies ? Also remember people are going to want the AC on and are probably carrying children, a few suitcases , and a dog.


Im not sure you understand how EV’s work
Posted by CPTDCKHD
Member since Sep 2019
1487 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 11:04 pm to
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if they do not have a big enough generator

Imagine walking to the Gas station to get gasoline for your generator, so you can charge your car.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29044 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 11:17 pm to
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Imagine walking to the Gas station to get gasoline for your generator, so you can charge your car.
Imagine thinking that's somehow a disadvantage.

Can you fuel your car using natural gas, coal, nuclear, or the sun or the wind? How about just by towing it?
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
18673 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 11:25 pm to
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What an incredibly original thought. Someone should discuss this.


I know you love electric vehicles. You let me know when one has the range to save me time on long trips and I’m all in.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
37926 posts
Posted on 6/12/22 at 7:30 am to
It's not for everyone but having made a trip from D.C. to Austin I can tell you it isnt much time. First, you plan your stops and, in this case, the Tesla tells you where you have an available charger. The next part is something that goes against our culture and that is only charging what we needed or had time in our stop. When you goto the gas station you top off. It isnt necessary to do that as we stayed in hotels that jnckuded charging. So if we already paid for charging whh pay for it again? Take it away from the road trip and ask why would you charge to 100% when you can charge at a cheaper rate at home. The computer tells you what you need at your current usage so you do a little but more than that and charge at home.
Posted by OldCat55
Member since Apr 2021
728 posts
Posted on 6/12/22 at 9:05 am to
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How does a ICE vehicle pump gas at gas station without power?


This is one of the craziest things I saw during hurricane Katrina. A rural store with gas pumps had no power of course. A red neck engineer had the covers off the pump and a 3500-5000 watt range gas generator hard wired into the pump itself.

I purchased gas many times from this setup.

All the stores in our area that also sell gas have gone with some pretty substantial back up generators to protect their inside perishable inventory and keep the pumps running. Supply to the local places is the issue now as we experienced in Ida.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25840 posts
Posted on 6/12/22 at 9:09 am to
Sounds like that Tesla was programmed by a woman that always had the gas light blinking. You are one traffic jam / interstate accident away from being stranded with that logic. Also what if the charger isn’t working at your next destination.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
37926 posts
Posted on 6/12/22 at 9:10 am to
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This is one of the craziest things I saw during hurricane Katrina. A rural store with gas pumps had no power of course. A red neck engineer had the covers off the pump and a 3500-5000 watt range gas generator hard wired into the pump itself.


I'm pro-EV but we certainly have a long way to go before we get redneck ingenuity with them
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33036 posts
Posted on 6/12/22 at 9:11 am to
Big problem with EV's is that the non-Tesla chargers very widely in quality and maintenance. Not only are they hard to find, but they are often broken.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
37926 posts
Posted on 6/12/22 at 9:42 am to
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Sounds like that Tesla was programmed by a woman that always had the gas light blinking. You are one traffic jam / interstate accident away from being stranded with that logic. Also what if the charger isn’t working at your next destination.



The percentage charge isn't counting down by the second like an old gas guzzler. We never cut it close and had plenty of other places to stop along the way. We just planned lunches, bathroom breaks, tourist stops with chargers. We never sat around waiting for a charge because we did it during planned stops

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You are one traffic jam / interstate accident away from being stranded with that logic


You have a lot of control over your vehicle. Turn off everything you do not need and conserve energy. Take the people stranded in Atlanta on the freeway in the ice storm. EV faired much better because people turned off everything but the heated seats and they lasted way longer than an ICE running the engine for heat


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Also what if the charger isn’t working at your next destination.


The supercharger is on the map on your screen. Double tap on the card and it will minimize it. Double tap again and it will go full size in the middle. If you believe that info is incorrect then you can use abetterrouteplanner.com
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
37926 posts
Posted on 6/12/22 at 9:43 am to
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Not only are they hard to find,


I haven't used them much so I am not sure about the maintenance, but they are not hard to find at all

Plugshare



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The infrastructure isn’t here yet for EV. Biden is a fricking idiot.


I'm glad we didn't have this attitude towards the internet
This post was edited on 6/12/22 at 9:52 am
Posted by OldCat55
Member since Apr 2021
728 posts
Posted on 6/12/22 at 9:52 am to
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I'm pro-EV but we certainly have a long way to go before we get redneck ingenuity with them


Seriously! My redneck buddies can do more with baling wire and duct tape in 30 minutes than all the NASA engineers can do in a month.

Elon needs to donate a few Teslas with a compound full of shade trees for them to work under. In a month, those boys would have have them going 1,000 miles off two AA batteries.

I’m surrounded by Redneck Savants!
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