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re: Economist: Iran deal means oil @ $10-20/bbl

Posted on 7/14/15 at 10:30 pm to
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 10:30 pm to
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If the price stays low, production should increase to meet demand.

What if price goes under the breakeven point for most plays? $10/bbl?
Posted by Real Pirate
NE LA
Member since Apr 2013
1879 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 10:32 pm to
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What if price goes under the breakeven point for most plays? $10/bbl?


Or economy suffers, unemployment increases, and lots of trucks get traded in for higher mpg cars.


But, but, but lower gas and this asshat with an oilfield mafia sticker on his f250 laughed at my camry.

Sounds childish when put into that context, right?
This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 10:33 pm
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31644 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 10:34 pm to
Sorry Pirate there's been some shitty responses to my position here.

I was referring to non oilfield rates. I know iron workers were billing me out at $53/hr recently and you've got to subtract burden and profit from those rates, so I figure somewhere around $25 -$30 actual wages. That is not horrible money.
Posted by Real Pirate
NE LA
Member since Apr 2013
1879 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 10:37 pm to
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Sorry Pirate there's been some shitty responses to my position here.  




All good brother, I'm thick skinded


quote:


I was referring to non oilfield rates. I know iron workers were billing me out at $53/hr recently and you've got to subtract burden and profit from those rates, so I figure somewhere around $25 -$30 actual wages. That is not horrible money.



That's probably an accurate guess to the wage of a structural welder staying close to home. In PA 4 years ago a structural welder made closer to the $45 mark. But, that's with $175/day per diem, plus or minus.
Posted by TigerDog83
Member since Oct 2005
8858 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 10:39 pm to
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What if price goes under the breakeven point for most plays? $10/bbl?


You would probably be looking at shut ins on producing wells in lots of places. Rig count would be horrific. There is almost no supply that can work at $10 per barrel and lifting costs exceed that in almost everything in the us I would think. Even Saudi Arabia is likely higher than that now as ghawar is getting really old.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82349 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 10:40 pm to
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Pulling in $1200 wk plus overtime is not exactly chump change.
Meh, its not anything to write home about either
Posted by Real Pirate
NE LA
Member since Apr 2013
1879 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 10:44 pm to
Agreed, but that's close to what most of these guys make starting out in this field.

However, being home with family and making that money is a completely different story imo.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31644 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 10:50 pm to
$1200/wk is $62k per year. That's better than a lot of folks.

I guess my beef is you have people whining on Facebook about making "only" $62k per year. There are people out there that really can't find work.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 10:51 pm to
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Sounds childish when put into that context, right?

Wanting cheap energy is anything but childish IMO.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36819 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 10:52 pm to
Gas is cheap as shite compared to your other options. Rock on
Posted by Real Pirate
NE LA
Member since Apr 2013
1879 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 10:53 pm to
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Wanting cheap energy is anything but childish IMO.


Then you should move to the Philippines you fricking hippie. I hear they have free energy there.

Jesus, we let you people get married now you want free this and free that.
Posted by GoldenD
Katy
Member since Jan 2015
1004 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 10:54 pm to
quote:

What if price goes under the breakeven point for most plays? $10/bbl?



At that point the world's primary energy source would no longer be oil. The demand would have to be ridiculously low because supply will never push it that far. Iran's 1 mm bbl/day export will do little to the global market as it represents a little over 1%.
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
6354 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 10:56 pm to
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Drink up, Laffy
If true, we are headed for another depression.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 10:57 pm to
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Gas is cheap as shite compared to your other options.

Agree, that's why that's where it's at.

Cheaper is still better with energy. Cheaper energy = cheaper literally everything in life in the world

It's better except for a few people in a few places, which sucks because those few happen to be near (and even a few dear) to me, but it's still easily better overall for humanity with very, very cheap energy
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 10:58 pm to
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At that point the world's primary energy source would no longer be oil. The demand would have to be ridiculously low because supply will never push it that far. Iran's 1 mm bbl/day export will do little to the global market as it represents a little over 1%.

Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 11:00 pm to
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Then you should move to the Philippines you fricking hippie. I hear they have free energy there.

Jesus, we let you people get married now you want free this and free that.

You sound like a really tough guy.

I would be totally scared of you IRL, with my hippy wispy goatee and skinny jeans.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36819 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 11:01 pm to
quote:

quote:
Gas is cheap as shite compared to your other options.

Agree, that's why that's where it's at.

Cheaper is still better with energy. Cheaper energy = cheaper literally everything in life in the world


Incorrect, cheaper fuel only shifts profits from one company to another


Ain't nobody dropping their own prices because fuel is cheaper
This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 11:05 pm
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29646 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 11:03 pm to
I think you're probably right, but the net effect may not be all that clear. Ironically, given the current administration, the Energy sector (and to a lesser extent the Financial Services sector) has been the saving grace for the US in emerging from the recession. The windfall for the American consumer hasn't been as pronounced of an economic boost as some may have expected in 1H15.
Posted by Tigerswillprevail
Member since Nov 2011
3071 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 11:07 pm to
I am amazed that the majority here believe that all oilfield workers make serious bank. The majority of workers are shop hands, delivery drivers, various support admin. The workers in the field make a lot more due to site hazards and having to work away from home at extended periods.

Not every oilfield worker drives a 50k truck, not even close.

Louisiana as a state loses when prices goes down. Be jubilant at others decline you fricks.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 11:09 pm to
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Ain't nobody dropping their own prices because fuel is cheaper

Incorrect. Some will, and the ones who can to a greater degree and realize it will have the advantage at the end of the day.
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