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re: EBR Schools Proposed Schedule Changes - Parochial Schools to start at 7:15am!

Posted on 8/25/23 at 7:52 am to
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
67912 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 7:52 am to
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What time should school start? I'd assume a majority of households have 2 working parents these days. It would be pretty damn inconvenient for school to start at 8:30


LOL. What a stupid argument. Is that anymore inconvenient than them being done at 2:00 too?
Posted by finfeathersport
Member since Jan 2013
268 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 8:03 am to
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Why the hell are the public school busses driving the parochial kids?


beacuse our tax dollars are paying for the busses. just like our tax dollars are paying for these kids to go to school and eat free breakfast and lunch.

I wouldnt be surprised if the next proposal is a fee for parochial schools to use buses to pay for the extra workers.

Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
51657 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 8:03 am to
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LOL. What a stupid argument. Is that anymore inconvenient than them being done at 2:00 too?

Most little kids go to aftercare or daycare after school
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49236 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 8:07 am to
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If the diocese was smart, they’d run their own buses like Episcopal does. Because, as the diocese is finding out, when you outsource something, you are giving up control of it to a third party.


EHS doesn’t have their own busses only 1 used for sports. They sub to First Student and it is $2500.00 per year/per student.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
21172 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 8:20 am to
I did it 25 years ago wasn’t bad Out at 2 not bad
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104287 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 8:21 am to
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Most little kids go to aftercare or daycare after school
Well if you are going to say that, you can also use before care for an 8:30 start
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104287 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 8:22 am to
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That doesn’t mean it’s ok
High schools have started at 7:15am in south Louisiana since the 90s at least, with the k-8 at 7:30
This post was edited on 8/25/23 at 8:23 am
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
4603 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 8:22 am to
The schools in my district have staggered starts so the buses aren’t filled with kids of different ages.
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
6394 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 8:24 am to
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This is really the only logical solution I can think of except the school board magically finding money for immediate raises


Nah go back to the old days and have the teachers drive the buses
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
41248 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 8:50 am to
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My HS kid's school already starts at 7:10. Mine started at 7:20 30 years ago



Our high school starts at 9:00. The elementary schools start at 7:30. Making teenagers start school at 7:00, when studies prove early classes are less effective at that age, just so they can take care of sibling after school is crap. What about putting the little kids on the bus earlier so parents can leave for work in the morning? We have very cheap after school programs at our elementary schools for the kids who need to stay until their parents or older siblings can get them.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:00 am to
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beacuse our tax dollars are paying for the busses. just like our tax dollars are paying for these kids to go to school and eat free breakfast and lunch. I wouldnt be surprised if the next proposal is a fee for parochial schools to use buses to pay for the extra workers.


I would hope private schools are paying to use the buses. That would be messed up if not.

Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:02 am to
I bash BR and EBR schools all the time but I honestly don’t get why there was so much pushback to the idea of staggering school times. It was the only real solution put forth.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
75037 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:07 am to
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You do realize some teachers attend college after teaching all day to supplement their degrees with more advanced degrees
Some of those classes start in the afternoon and this schedule would impact those teachers


Let me talk to my boss real quick and cancel my busy season so I can take college courses.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
39902 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:19 am to
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would hope private schools are paying to use the buses. That would be messed up if not.


They are. We all pay the taxes that support them. EBR Parish School Board brought this issue up a few years ago and an accountant/lawyer from the diocese showed up with actual numbers. They laid out how many students would not be able to attend the Catholic schools without it buses and that X number of students would now need to be enrolled in public schools requiring Y dollars of support from additional teachers, buses, and support staff.

Guess who freaking realized they could not financially or logistically support the extra students?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
39902 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:22 am to
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bash BR and EBR schools all the time but I honestly don’t get why there was so much pushback to the idea of staggering school times. It was the only real solution put forth.


Why wasn’t this discussed before the school year so accommodations could be made? Most families cannot pick their kids up or even be at home for them if school dismisses at 2:00. And I know at my kids’ school aftercare is completely full and cannot accommodate any more students.

If staggering start times to accommodate the lack of bus drivers was implemented in June, I do not think there would be any push back. But you can’t change this during the school year
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:28 am to
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They are. We all pay the taxes that support them.


Yeah that’s not the same thing. I also pay the taxes but don’t get free use of everything the government owns much less their employees. My taxes paid for turf baseball fields. Why can’t I start my own team and use them for free?
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:31 am to
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Why wasn’t this discussed before the school year so accommodations could be made?


Because Sito is out of touch. That doesn’t change he fact that the proposed plan is better than not picking kids up.

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Most families cannot pick their kids up or even be at home for them if school dismisses at 2:00.


They would expand aftercare to accommodate. How will families do if their kids aren’t picked up at all?

They’re short on bus drivers.
Posted by Outboard
BR
Member since Jul 2015
226 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:40 am to
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While I do think that there’s something to this, the Diocese currently pays for the bus service, and that comes from the schools collecting tuition. So even though you are driving your kid to SAS, and mine rides the bus to SAS, we pay the same tuition cost.

Now, if the Diocese wanted to break free from this and have their own transportation system I’m sure they could…but not overnight.

Either way, I’d rather drive my kid to/from school at normal times than adhere to other times just to use the bus.

What I also couldn’t figure out is how the EBRPSS was going to dictate to the hundreds of Catholic school teachers, staff, and administrators, all of whom work for an entirely different entity, that they were going to have to work on completely different schedules starting in 2 weeks.


100% incorrect the busses for the Diocese comes from a statewide grant and is paid for from your property taxes. It was put in place over 40 years ago. The buses do not come out of your tuition it is the one thing that Diocese school students get for paying their property taxes! Go do research before you put out false information!
Posted by Outboard
BR
Member since Jul 2015
226 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:43 am to
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What I also couldn’t figure out is how the EBRPSS was going to dictate to the hundreds of Catholic school teachers, staff, and administrators, all of whom work for an entirely different entity, that they were going to have to work on completely different schedules starting in 2 weeks.


I agree. I’m sure there is a contract in place between the diocese and EBR Transportation and only a fool would have allowed EBR the power to arbitrarily change times/routes in that contract.

If the diocese was smart, they’d run their own buses like Episcopal does. Because, as the diocese is finding out, when you outsource something, you are giving up control of it to a third party.


If you ride the bus at Episcopal it is extra to your tuition cost it is not included! Do some research!
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
9925 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:48 am to
When I went to junior and high school in Lafourche Parish back in the 1990s, let in times were from 6:40 to 7:15 a.m. Morning announcements started at 7:20. 1st Period started at about 7:30. Perk of going in so early was that school let out at 2:20.

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