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re: EBR Library people about to be big mad! Mayor wants their tax money to fund police raises.
Posted on 2/11/25 at 4:57 pm to jizzle6609
Posted on 2/11/25 at 4:57 pm to jizzle6609
quote:social security is 10 years, too
10 years still most people dont get a PENSION after 10 years of bullshite service.
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Posted on 2/11/25 at 7:01 pm to EnglebertHumperdink
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I live in Ascension and always said they spend way too much on these libraries and they are still building more.
St Bernard is building a new library even though the one they have right now located in Chalmette High is perfectly fine… maybe the school wants the space back?
I think the funding for it is use it or lose it some kind of way? I paid 3.78 mills for that on my property tax
This post was edited on 2/11/25 at 7:03 pm
Posted on 2/11/25 at 7:40 pm to chryso
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The library has surplus funds because the library saves up money to do renovations and build new buildings rather than take out loans. This seems like the most responsible government entity I know of. I don't want to punish them for being responsible by taking away their money.
Going to copy/paste something I posted in one of the library threads a few weeks ago:
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A few line items from the city-parish 2024 operating budget:
Public Safety (All): $274.289M
Transportation (All): $145.276M
Police Department: $107.003M
Library Board of Control: $71.037M
Fire Dept (BRFD): $60.085M
Emergency Medical Services: $43.152M
Full-time equivalent (FTE) positions budgeted:
Police Department: 889
Fire Department: 612
Library Board of Control: 419
Emergency Medical Services: 248
The Library Board of Control is the third-largest department (by FTE) listed on the city-parish operating budget. Have they been responsible with their funding? Sure. It certainly seems that way. But it’s easy keep a surplus when you have more money than you know what to do with.
I’m not anti-library or anything. I think libraries are great. I just don’t think our spending on them, relative to the rest of the city government, is particularly reasonable.
Posted on 2/11/25 at 7:55 pm to BigBinBR
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I never said they do any substantial amount. But you know how much policing outside the city limits of Baton Rouge does? 0.
However, you are advocating for the reallocation of funds collected from Zachary residents through the library tax to be redirected to BRPD.
I think you’re kind of both right TBH. I also think the division of responsibilities between BRPD and EBRSO is a clusterfrick and a problem overall for the parish. I think we’d be a lot better off with one department running everything (which would likely mean EBRSO) but I don’t know if that will ever happen because I sincerely doubt Sid wants that responsibility.
Regardless, the point about library funding covering the entire parish is a valid one. I would gladly vote to cut library funding in the city of BR by a decent margin and reallocate it to BRPD if it worked that way (but it doesn’t as far as I’m aware), and this is from someone who routinely refers to BRPD as “fricking useless.”
Posted on 2/11/25 at 9:00 pm to Harry Boutte
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No, it's stupid. The people voted to give that portion of their taxes to the library system. If the mayor wants to pay officers more (which I agree with) he should put it on the ballot (where I would vote for it).
You would get a chance to vote on it. Just put a lower Millage on the ballot for libraries along with a vote for additional Millage for cops.
Only BR voters would vote on a tax for cops.
Posted on 2/11/25 at 9:04 pm to el Gaucho
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If they gave back the 120 million library surplus back to the taxpayers that’s like 500k a person
120 million/ 250k people in br
Apparently, we should move the money to math instruction instead.
Posted on 2/11/25 at 9:06 pm to Harry Boutte
You’re pretty fricking stupid. He is literally putting it on the ballot.
Libraries are chalk full of waste. This is needed in the worst way.
Libraries are chalk full of waste. This is needed in the worst way.
Posted on 2/11/25 at 9:06 pm to chryso
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The library has surplus funds because the library saves up money to do renovations and build new buildings rather than take out loans. This seems like the most responsible government entity I know of. I don't want to punish them for being responsible by taking away their money.
The library surplus is over 100 million dollars. The bid for the last new library came on at 12 million. Add in property and furnishings and you have another 3 million.
They have money to build 7 new libraries and we don’t need 7 new libraries.
Posted on 2/11/25 at 9:11 pm to Huey Lewis
The Shetiff collects taxes and runs the prison. They do more than just policing.
Posted on 2/11/25 at 9:12 pm to BigBinBR
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Baton Rouge Police provides nothing outside of the city limits.
This was a reason the St. George movement even got any traction. Kind of messed up to take an allocated millage that was voted on and just "reallocate" it to BRPD.
So I have to keep paying my library money on my property taxes so BRPD can still not come to my house if I call 911? Lol okay. What am I missing?
Posted on 2/11/25 at 9:16 pm to LSU03
It comes out to around $400 a person but is more like $1000 or more per property owner who pays taxes.
I sure could use that $1,000 right now.
I sure could use that $1,000 right now.
Posted on 2/11/25 at 9:23 pm to el Gaucho
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If they gave back the 120 million library surplus back to the taxpayers that’s like 500k a person
120 million/ 250k people in br
That's mind bottling! I want my 500k, Frick them liberries
Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:03 pm to Lickitty Split
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Libraries are chalk full of waste.
Edit this.
Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:11 pm to HouseMom
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This was a reason the St. George movement even got any traction. Kind of messed up to take an allocated millage that was voted on and just "reallocate" it to BRPD. So I have to keep paying my library money on my property taxes so BRPD can still not come to my house if I call 911? Lol okay. What am I missing?
Sid’s plan would get my support provided it rolls out like this;
1) the library surplus stays with the library. That was created by a vote of the people,
2) The Millage is lowered to the amount Sid recommends. This Millage would support the libraries and be paid parish wide.
3) difference in the existing Millage and the Millage Sid recommends would be voted on by BR voters, they would pay the tax if it passes, and the money realized would go to BRPD.
This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 8:31 am
Posted on 2/11/25 at 11:39 pm to chryso
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This seems like the most responsible government entity I know of. I don't want to punish them for being responsible
There are a lot of rumors about how the library system is run that don't sound so promising. Hopefully all of these rumors are false. For example, it has been said that the system had upwards of $3 million in uncollected overdue fines and other charges for unreturned items with no plans in place to require payment. It has also been said that the library was waiving these fines and charges after 7 years any way, meaning that you could check out thousands of dollars of items with no intent of ever returning the items, and the library would not only do nothing to see that you paid them back but they would also automatically return your library account to good standing 7 years later regardless. This probably means that the uncollected $3 million would actually be millions more if so much of it weren't waived every 7 years. Recently the library said that they wanted to stop collecting past due fines altogether. There was also a supposed laptop computer loan program that had to be discontinued after all but one of the laptops in the program were stolen or destroyed. Money was also supposedly wasted on a framed-painting loan program that has since been ended.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 6:05 am to jbgleason
I voted for a library tax, not a police raise.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 7:13 am to doubleb
I'm okay with your plan. My issue would be taking funds from the parish for city-only services.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:04 am to chalmetteowl
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St Bernard is building a new library even though the one they have right now located in Chalmette High is perfectly fine… maybe the school wants the space back?
I think the funding for it is use it or lose it some kind of way? I paid 3.78 mills for that on my property tax
If you're concerned about it, you should ask your city council representative.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:18 am to KamaCausey_LSU
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The library system will propose its lowered millage rate at the next Metro Council meeting on Wednesday. The Mayor-President's proposal will be introduced that day and scheduled for a vote in March.
After today we should know the details of the actual proposals.
As a BR resident, I agree with other posters in reducing the library millage parish wide, and keeping the difference on the books. But also, it should be a dedicated millage to BRPD, not go towards the general fund. Parish money for parish services, city money for city services.
I'm curious as to where Edwards stands on deconsolidating the City-Parish government.
This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 8:19 am
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:29 am to HouseMom
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I'm okay with your plan. My issue would be taking funds from the parish for city-only services.
Believe me, I am on your side.
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