re: EBR Library fires employee for failing to address coworker

So is raceder. I'm black.

ETA: today

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Why is it weird to make fun of a man in dress and heels?

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It is not. It is actually pretty universally funny. It has been for a long time. I saw a YouTube clip of Flip Wilson doing Geraldine just a few days ago....in the early 70s on prime-time network TV....a pretty popular show at the time. Drag shows ARE comedy. That is the foundational point, always has been, always will be. If someone goes to see a drag show to be titillated sexually or finds it sexually repulsive THEY have some issues, not the drag queen. Being mean spirited about it is just that, mean. Making fun of a man in a dress in the spirit of comedy and good will is fine, making fun of a man in a dress to degrade and humiliate them is just mean.

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If someone goes to see a drag show to be titillated sexually or finds it sexually repulsive THEY have some issues, not the drag queen.

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Quoting this for posterity so you can't go back and edit.

The first part is in my humble opinion disgusting (but if you're into that thing, hey, go for it) and the second part is telling about you and your beliefs.

And also stop trying to equate a guy who dresses up as a woman to entertain with a guy who believes they are a woman and expects the rest of society to bend to their delusions. It's disingenuous and they are nowhere NEAR the same thing.

Can these people read the room? This is not the city or state in which to fire someone for refusing to use preferred pronouns. Indeed, the library has just bought itself a heap of trouble in a city and state that will not tolerate violations of religious beliefs like this. There will be hell to pay with library funding, and I expect to see other political actions taken to prevent this kind of activity from taking place in the future.

The people in library leadership who are responsible for this should be reprimanded for violating the religious rights of their employees. If you are going to have a work place "in which all employees are welcomed, accepted and respected," you must accept these kinds of differences and, well, welcome, accept, and respect those with a different viewpoint on this matter. As is, being welcomed, accepted, and respected goes only one way.

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Biology is an undeniable scientific fact and can be tested for simply....there is no such test for gender.

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Wrong. "Gender" comes to us through the French gendre (son-in-law), originating from the Latin genus which means "class", "type", or "sort".

For pretty much the history of the English language it's been synonymous with "biological sex", especially in formal or medical contexts.

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Gender is a social construct by ANY definition.

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Wrong again. It wasn't until the 1950s when Dr. John Money decided that "gender" should mean "societally assigned roles". He sought out to prove his theory by experimenting on twins Brian and David Reimer.

The short version of this sad and tragic tale is that Dr. Money talked David's parents into convincing him that he was a girl after a botched circumcision mutilated his penis. The result? Brian OD'd and David killed himself, the roots of both deaths planted firmly in what was essentially the psychological warfare waged on them (but especially David) by their parents and Money just so Money could prove his insane theory.

The very foundation, the legacy, of this ridiculous stance that "gender" is somehow a sliding scale of "what I want people to think I am" is based in those being subjected to it killing themselves over their involvement with it.

And you're supporting that.

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I can not imagine willfully referring to someone who identifies as a man as she or her or being overly put out when that man corrected me.

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Then you are a push-over. Be sure to tell each "gender" emperor you meet how fabulous their clothes are.

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But in your world, we would go along with the delusions of the bulimic and all agree that they are in fact, fat, and should lose some weight.

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That poster is a straight up lunatic.

Wrote several novels to defend mental illness, then actually used cancer as a comparison. Holy shite I've seen it all.

Amazing. So if I don't recognize someone having cancer, I can lose my job too?

What a retard

Cry about it, pussy


Nobody gives a shite about the freaks anymore. Common sense is starting to come back into the fold

I seriously doubt my company would hire someone that used different pronouns. That shite would never fly

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How many actual trans people do you know ya queef?

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Actually 3 through business. I mean nice gals and they do a lot monetarily so who cares?

One I’ve known for 40 years when he was just deciding to cross over the bridge. Engineer, smart as hell, business owner in Louisiana and we do about $1m a year together for last 20 or so years. We all knew and I don’t look at it any differently than gay people I know in business.

Smart people who you can work with throughout your career which is beneficial for all parties are hard to find. Better than dealing with a bunch of dumbasses which there are plenty.