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re: During shutdown, people are vandalizing and cutting down Joshua Trees in JT National Park

Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:50 am to
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
88439 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:50 am to
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I'm hitting an intersection. Preston anf Hillcrest most likely.

good strategy, stay away from Southlake Town Square, that's mine
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:51 am to
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Yes, people doing this are total arse holes, no question.


What if no one is doing this and the trees just fell like trees do?
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40399 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:52 am to
I can't live with or without them.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44208 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:52 am to
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What if no one is doing this and the trees just fell like trees do?



Well how the hell are you supposed to push a political narrative with that shite?

Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
88439 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:54 am to
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I can't live with or without them.

still haven't found what you're looking for?
Posted by Montezuma
Member since Apr 2013
3659 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:06 am to
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What if no one is doing this and the trees just fell like trees do?


That is likely a lot to do with it, but there are ATV/motorbike crews that will be quick to frick up public lands for trails and staging areas. I used to see it all the time in east CA, and where I am in the Idaho/Montana area now. Cutting trees, gravelling streams for crossing, clipping fences, if they can get away with it, they do it.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:12 am to
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That is likely a lot to do with it, but there are ATV/motorbike crews that will be quick to frick up public lands for trails and staging areas. I used to see it all the time in east CA, and where I am in the Idaho/Montana area now. Cutting trees, gravelling streams for crossing, clipping fences, if they can get away with it, they do it.


How does cutting a tree at 6 feet in the air help an ATV/motorcycle crew? Just wondering
Posted by Montezuma
Member since Apr 2013
3659 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:15 am to
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How does cutting a tree at 6 feet in the air help an ATV/motorcycle crew? Just wondering


Like I typed, it could easily be a tree that fell naturally. But felling trees isn't out of the norm for people who want to make a trail.
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:16 am to
The 419 don't mess around.
Posted by hob
Member since Dec 2017
2342 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:20 am to
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That is likely a lot to do with it, but there are ATV/motorbike crews that will be quick to frick up public lands for trails and staging areas. I used to see it all the time in east CA, and where I am in the Idaho/Montana area now. Cutting trees, gravelling streams for crossing, clipping fences, if they can get away with it, they do it.


So there's a segment of the population just sitting there waiting for a govt shutdown to go out and cut trails into land? They are willing to put in all that work knowing that after the shutdown is over those trails could never be used again.

I don't believe people say "Hey, the govt is shutdown. Let's go frick up some shite"

Posted by Montezuma
Member since Apr 2013
3659 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:30 am to
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So there's a segment of the population just sitting there waiting for a govt shutdown to go out and cut trails into land? They are willing to put in all that work knowing that after the shutdown is over those trails could never be used again.



They do it with the government open too. You only need the trails for the day or the weekend.

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I don't believe people say "Hey, the govt is shutdown. Let's go frick up some shite"


It is just easier to do it now.

That said, I think this case is likely overblown, if real at all.
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 10:31 am
Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
Member since Nov 2010
14539 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 11:22 am to
Looking for help to go with me to the Petrified Forrest National Park and get some primo rocks - Caution - Sorta heavy.



Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12958 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 11:27 am to
Trash. Frickin pathetic, man. The fact that there are people out there waiting for this opportunity is ridiculous.
Posted by WhoDatNC
NC
Member since Dec 2013
13963 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 11:57 am to
Please catch them and then put a bullet in their head as to end their misery.
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
34147 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 11:59 am to
Some people are really just a waste of air and space.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 12:00 pm to
No one gives a shite about the government shutdown or those Joshua Trees.
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 12:01 pm
Posted by TechDawg2007
Bawville
Member since Nov 2007
32462 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 12:05 pm to
I was a tree in the first grade play... This could have been me
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
20405 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 12:31 pm to
They weren't cut down. They were trampled by all the damn illegals running across the border.

BUILD THE WALL!!!
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
10092 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 12:49 pm to
Millennials and MAGAs
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120068 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 12:56 pm to
What do people think acting like this will get them? As if the government is going to be like "oh shite, some people cut down a Joshua Tree in JT National Park. Better open things back up right this second".

But it is sad that it is going on for this long. And this all could have been avoided if Trump would have just signed the bill, passed by both parties, that would leave the government open through February so that during the holidays the government wouldn't shut down and they could continue working on this situation when everyone returned, without any type of interference.

Dude doesn't know how to work with other people.
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