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re: Dumb Mexican Border Question
Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:57 am to jerseyfla
Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:57 am to jerseyfla
I’m not sure of the est total cost of this thing but let’s just say it’s projected to be $10B.
I am confident that there is a more efficient use of $10B that can be geared towards the same goal.
Immigration obviously needs the rehaul somewhere and I’m fully behind Trump on that initiative. With that said, I can guarantee you people will find a way around a wall and we will look back on it as an inefficient use of money if it gets built in its entirety.
I am confident that there is a more efficient use of $10B that can be geared towards the same goal.
Immigration obviously needs the rehaul somewhere and I’m fully behind Trump on that initiative. With that said, I can guarantee you people will find a way around a wall and we will look back on it as an inefficient use of money if it gets built in its entirety.
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Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:58 am to Balloon Huffer
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Why do you NOT want a wall. So you think it is stupid, or a waste of money, so what. Why do you NOT want a wall. Why do you ACTIVELY oppose the wall.
Let's presume for this argument that The Wall will actually work and be effective at keeping people OUT. Would it not also be equally effective at keeping people IN? The IRS already has procedure in place to revoke US citizens' visa status in cases of past due taxes: IRS Website
Remember when the Obama Admin weaponized the IRS to attack Tea Party groups? Is it such a stretch to think that another, less favorable admin could then use The Wall and the IRS to prevent people from fleeing Bernie Sanders style income taxes? And before you mention that people could easily escape by plane or boat, I'd also like to remind you of the TSA and their role in travel.
The Wall is BS. What we really need is comprehensive immigration reform making it easier for people to come here to work. We need to end the War on Drugs which turns those Central American countries into war zones controlled by gangs and drug lords. We need to eliminate social welfare programs that prop up those that are unwilling to work. Do those things and illegal immigration goes away and it doesn't cost me a dime.
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 10:59 am
Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:59 am to Open Dore Policy
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There's already a GoFundMe to buy ladders for the wall.
National Guard and Border Patrol should be able to shoot anyone on site they see trying to cross the wall....
Then maybe that would reduce the number of people coming across.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:00 am to tgrbaitn08
Yes. They should be able to pop a bullet into a 5 year old child's head.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:01 am to jerseyfla
Why does anyone believe our government can build a 2000 mile long wall for $5 billion?
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:03 am to HogX
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They should be able to pop a bullet into a 5 year old child's head.
Shoot the parents first
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:04 am to tgrbaitn08
You're so macho and cool.
That's part of my issue as well. I fully expect a project of this magnitude to turn into a quagmire knowing our government.
And it doesn't matter if it costs $100 billion because those staunchly in support of it will keep talking about how it'll pay for itself in time, so not an eye will be batted regardless of cost. They basically have a blank check.
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Why does anyone believe our government can build a 2000 mile long wall for $5 billion?
That's part of my issue as well. I fully expect a project of this magnitude to turn into a quagmire knowing our government.
And it doesn't matter if it costs $100 billion because those staunchly in support of it will keep talking about how it'll pay for itself in time, so not an eye will be batted regardless of cost. They basically have a blank check.
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 11:12 am
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:08 am to dbeck
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Why does anyone believe our government can build a 2000 mile long wall for $5 billion?
The same people that think that Mexico is going to pay for it. Morons. If the gov't has a $5B estimate on a project, you can multiply that by 4x to come close to the actual cost.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:08 am to Aubie Spr96
Personally I would like to see they $5-30 billion Goto something more practical—VA, education, infrastructure repairs...
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:13 am to jerseyfla
They go underground along with coyotes, cartel, and drugs
It won’t atop
It won’t atop
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:24 am to The Torch
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they will find a way over it, under it or around it.
They already have
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:30 am to Cold Drink
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It won’t stop them because that’s not how they come here in the first place.
You’ve obviously never hunted in south Texas. We see more illegals from the stand than deer.....and we are a lot of deer
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:37 am to yellowfin
There's no border wall where you hunt?
You mean, all this time Texas hasn't fixed that problem? In decades??
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:39 am to yellowfin
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You’ve obviously never hunted in south Texas. We see more illegals from the stand than deer.....and we are a lot of deer
when is illegal season?
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:39 am to yellowfin
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We see more illegals from the stand than deer.....and we are a lot of deer
You dont hunt high fence in Texas? smh
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:42 am to Aubie Spr96
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fleeing Bernie Sanders style income taxes?
Fleeing?
I'd imagine it would look more like yellow vest "protests".
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:44 am to HogX
Why can’t we just build a wall in the areas closest to Mexico population areas where they are most likely to try and cross? I’m sure there are areas for hundreds of miles at a time where none of them really try to cross due to natural barriers and no roads of any kind to get anywhere close
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:45 am to dbeck
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Why does anyone believe our government can build a 2000 mile long wall for $5 billion?
Because no one has said that, unless they were intentionally lying. The total estimate is around $25-30 billion.
ETA: I'm shocked that several of you are parroting this bullshite, shocked I tell you.
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 11:48 am
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:50 am to notiger1997
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Why can’t we just build a wall in the areas closest to Mexico population areas where they are most likely to try and cross? I’m sure there are areas for hundreds of miles at a time where none of them really try to cross due to natural barriers and no roads of any kind to get anywhere close
That's a more reasonable solution but I don't think that's the vision that many of the gung-ho supporters have on it. We already have 580 miles of barriers in place along the border what have not helped the issue. I'm not sure why a slightly taller barrier in the same areas would improve that situation very much.
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Because no one has said that, unless they were intentionally lying. The total estimate is around $25-30 billion.
I think that idea came from the $5 billion in funding that Trump requested. Trump recently said he expected it to cost as little as $15 billion total or possibly even less.
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 11:57 am
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:52 am to jerseyfla
"Maybe a rope."
-Donald Trump thinking out loud the fatal flaw to his wall. Yes, he really said this on video at a public speaking engagement.
-Donald Trump thinking out loud the fatal flaw to his wall. Yes, he really said this on video at a public speaking engagement.
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