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re: Dual income households, what's the cost/benefit of the lower earner's wage?
Posted on 1/22/16 at 9:24 am to lsunurse
Posted on 1/22/16 at 9:24 am to lsunurse
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What's the break even point as far as the amount someone needs to bring in to offset the added direct costs? And as far as costs, how do you determine direct AND indirect costs? (meaning: "because we both work we NEED a bigger house,TV, Prada purse, and yeti cooler")
Would your kids be better Home Schooled?
The answer to the last question is obviously "yes," as you well know....
We were doing some tax analysis last night, especially centered around that anti-middle class jump from 15 to 25% marginal rate. I would have to do some seriously creative financing to get us mostly in 15% rate even reducing work considerably and wife quitting job. But you still have to factor that 10% in diminished return.
The indirect costs are very real. You deserve that more expensive hotel room or wine because you've both been working so hard. You compensate for the lack of meaning by buying shite no one needs.
The direct costs are obvious. But I work from home so I could off-set a lot if we had kids. But then I'm bearing those costs. Too old for that--it's gonna take a team of that happens at this juncture.
I also have never understood the concept of procreating and then letting someone else rear your kids the majority of meaningful waking hours. So that's a cost you can't really monetize if you share those values.
Koheleth say, "What do people gain from all their labors at which they toil under the sun?"
Eta: yay TD downvotes from double anonymous ftards! Wheeeee.
This post was edited on 1/22/16 at 10:20 am
Posted on 1/22/16 at 9:24 am to Mo Jeaux
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I also formed an LLC for her to start a photography business
this does seem to be the SAHM job of choice these days
some do pretty well though if they get established
Posted on 1/22/16 at 9:24 am to Janky
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No doubt. Take away the wife and I would have frick you money.
This.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 9:27 am to Mo Jeaux
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I also formed an LLC for her to start a photography business
Is she actually a good photographer? Or did she just buy a camera and think after a few months of taking pictures she could make money off of it?
Cause I've seen some stay at home mom/"photographers" pop up on my fb wall the past few years. Some are actually really good and are still doing sessions, others have moved on to selling Rodan and Fields or whatever other stuff they want to annoy all of their friends and family with.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 9:27 am to Salmon
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this does seem to be the SAHM job of choice these days
some do pretty well though if they get established
She had been doing it on the side for a few years and had built up a small client base, so it seemed like the natural thing to do. I look at it more as a hobby for her, but if she could grow it over a few years to where it brings in more than a little spending money, that would be great. Plus, the losses on our taxes are great.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 9:30 am to lsunurse
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Is she actually a good photographer? Or did she just buy a camera and think after a few months of taking pictures she could make money off of it?
Cause I've seen some stay at home mom/"photographers" pop up on my fb wall the past few years. Some are actually really good and are still doing sessions, others have moved on to selling Rodan and Fields or whatever other stuff they want to annoy all of their friends and family with.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 9:32 am to Janky
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o doubt. Take away the wife and I would have frick you money.
I don't even want to think about that
If I weren't married I'd probably spend it all and be broke anyway
Posted on 1/22/16 at 9:35 am to Mo Jeaux
That's cool. Good luck to her
You do know what I mean though right?
A former nurse coworker of mine from my first nursing job in LA is now a stay at home mom of 4. She is now a family photographer and looking at her work...she's pretty talented I will say.
You do know what I mean though right?
A former nurse coworker of mine from my first nursing job in LA is now a stay at home mom of 4. She is now a family photographer and looking at her work...she's pretty talented I will say.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 9:38 am to McLemore
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also have never understood the concept of procreating and then letting someone else rear your kids the majority of meaningful waking hours. So that's a cost you can't really monetize if you share those values.
No intelligent person with kids actually let's this happen. If you can't have a meaningful and productive relationship with your children outside of the 8 hours they're in daycare/school, that extra time wouldn't do you a damn bit of good.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 9:41 am to Kujo
All more the reason I don't want kids
Posted on 1/22/16 at 9:41 am to lsunurse
Thanks. Oh yeah, of course. We're lucky in that we aren't relying on it becoming a significant income source. I love the flexibility of her being home, and this is something that she likes to do in addition to household/kid care things that she has to do. Plus, having it as a working business means she really does have to spend time on "work" things like keeping track of expenses, advertising, training, income, etc.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 9:51 am to Mo Jeaux
Being able to expense "home office" doesn't hurt either 
Posted on 1/22/16 at 9:57 am to slackster
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People that say they live on it usually mean the live as if they're taking home 4k or so per month
what % of the population makes over 50k?
But since 100% of TD posters and their spouses seem to, well Yetis and Pradas for everyone!!
This post was edited on 1/22/16 at 10:01 am
Posted on 1/22/16 at 10:01 am to Kujo
We make over $50k and don't own anything Yeti or Prada
Your generalizations are weak
Try to get better at this please
Your generalizations are weak
Try to get better at this please
Posted on 1/22/16 at 10:02 am to Salmon
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We make over $50k and don't own anything Yeti or Prada
Sucks to be you. I'm drinking my iced mocha vanilla latte out of a Yeti tumbler right now.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 10:02 am to Kujo
Wife and I each make more than that. I've thought about buying a Yeti, but I can wait for a bit. Being disciplined with spending ain't hard.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 10:03 am to CorporateTiger
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(2) keeping her from dreaming up home improvement shite to spend money on, (3) keeping her from spending all day online shopping,
fricking this
Posted on 1/22/16 at 10:05 am to Kujo
If there's one sure sign you've made it in life it's an ice chest
Posted on 1/22/16 at 10:05 am to Kujo
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But since it's 100% of TD posters and their spouses seem to, well Yetis and Pradas for everyone!!
Is it really a stretch to assume the vast majority of married couples with at least one spouse that posts on TD gross over 50k?
Posted on 1/22/16 at 10:06 am to Kujo
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This post was edited on 10/2/20 at 9:30 pm
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