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re: Dual income households, what's the cost/benefit of the lower earner's wage?

Posted on 1/22/16 at 8:08 am to
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 8:08 am to
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Would your kids be better Home Schooled?




Unless you feel the need to brainwash them 100% into your religion, then very few kids are better home schooled. Home school is 100% teach to the test.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 8:09 am to
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No adult, when asked if they were born all over again today and given the choice of A) staying home with their mom or dad all day or B) sitting in an unfamiliar room for 10 hours sharing the space, time, and attention of 3 barely literate high school graduates with 19 other screaming babies would choose B.



is that why my daughter gets really excited and races to the door everyday so she can go to her preschool and play with her friends and teachers?
Posted by KG6
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 8:09 am to
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How much do you weigh in your own wants over what's better for the kids? 

"Sure we don't get to spend as much time with or are involved in our kid's lives..... but we have a better retirement for us"


This is asinine. We spend tons of time with our son. His time at daycare is a great way to learn social skills. Even if my wife still stayed home, we were sending him to a preschool geared towards learning so that he'd be better prepared for school and have interaction with other kids. There's a group of stay at home mom's on our block that my wife first got involved with, but they either send their kid somewhere a few days a week to get interaction, or they are fricking wierd. And that's not a personal judgement. They admit it. One of the moms said she hopes her kid isn't popular because she was a nerd in school and wouldn't know how to handle it. That shite ain't normal. I'd prefer my kid go to daycare and learn the skills required to interact with other people.
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 8:10 am to
My wife just starting working again this year now that my kids are old enough to be in school.

Benefits- 1. it make her feel like she is contributing. 2. HEALTH INSURANCE

I am self employed so our health insurance before was about $1,000/month with a $5,500 deductible. It now cost around the same premium but with a $30 co-pay.

Cons- 1. we can't just leave on a Thursday and go out of town whenever we want anymore.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 8:11 am to
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I'd prefer my kid go to daycare and learn the skills required to interact with other people.


This

We had an in-home nanny for my daughters first 2.5 years. We put her in a Montesorri school this fall and her social skills have greatly improved. I wish we would have done it sooner now.
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 8:12 am to
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send their kid somewhere a few days a week to get interaction, or they are fricking wierd.


yes, kids can play with other kids, you don't have to pay for it, for it to happen
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 8:12 am to
We are close to that break even point with my wife's job. She left a career in the medical field to work in the school system and makes about half of what she used to. By the time she pays for a sitter for our youngest, her fuel, clothes etc for the kids and some groceries there isn't a whole lot left off of her income. I pay everything basically and find that her working is a whole lot of bullshite for very minimal reward. I told her that if she changes career again her pay needs to go back in the other direction
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 8:15 am to
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I'd prefer my kid go to daycare and learn the skills required to interact with other people.


I think that's a good idea at 2 but a 6 month old isn't getting anything out of daycare
Posted by JJBTiger2012
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 8:15 am to
My wife makes 60k a yr on 32 hrs. a week. As the oil industry stands, she might have to take on PRN work which can net her 75k pretty easily. Do I feel like a worthless POS, yes I do but she's going to have to help. We're got a substantial amount of cash stashed away with minimal debt, but of we can Stay the course of stock piling cash and paying our bills then why not. Things will go back up and when they do it'll go back to normal. I'm just thankful that we have the opportunity as most of my coworkers don't.
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 8:15 am to
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We put her in a Montesorri school this fall and her social skills have greatly improved. I wish we would have done it sooner now.



what do you remember from school k-5? Go ahead, what developmental skills can you attribute solely due to your elementary experience?
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 8:17 am to
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(meaning: "because we both work we NEED a bigger house,TV, Prada purse, and yeti cooler")


With this mentality you could have 1, 2, or 17 streams of income and you'd still be a broke dumbass.
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 8:17 am to
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Cons- 1. we can't just leave on a Thursday and go out of town whenever we want anymore.




That was huge for me because my job is so flexible. I just told her we'd leave her if she couldn't get off
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 8:18 am to
My wife and i make about the same amount of money. Neither of us make a huge amount, but together we are in the 28% bracket. we have no kids. It's awesome.
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 8:18 am to
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I think that's a good idea at 2 but a 6 month

as you probably are aware studies have proved that it's detrimental to leave it before 4-6 months old. But does that mean that it must be 100% awesome to between 6 months and 4y/o?
Posted by JJBTiger2012
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 8:18 am to
Janky, we're in the same boat. Th advantages of being a 1099 are awesome BUT do you ever consider throwing in the towel and just going to work for the man? I do from time to time
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 8:19 am to
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what do you remember from school k-5?


playing with friends

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what developmental skills can you attribute solely due to your elementary experience?


playing with friends, structure, etc

obviously all this can be accomplished at home as well

its just a personal choice

homeschool, public school, private school...none of this really matters as long as the parents are there for the kids and the kids have a loving and structured household

people can argue about which is best all they want, but in the end, it just comes down to parenting and the environment in which the kid is raised
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 8:19 am to
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what do you remember from school k-5? Go ahead, what developmental skills can you attribute solely due to your elementary experience?


Not much, you know, interacting with people. That's kindof a biggie, tho.
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 8:21 am to
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With this mentality you could have 1, 2, or 17 streams of income and you'd still be a broke dumbass.



so why do common folk have such things? Greed/want over necessity. This "mentality" manifests itself in the dual income "mo money, mo money" parent/child relationship
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 8:21 am to
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$50-$75k
So you eat canned beans and raman and live in the ghetto where you maybe murdered? Living on 50k combined aint fun
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
22272 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 8:23 am to
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definitely some give and take


Agreed, but the pros far out weigh the cons in our situation.

Kids get sick more, house is a little more unkempt, kids are not with a parent most of the time, etc. Sure, all those things are not fun, but pale in comparison to buying a good home, affording private school if we'd like, vacations, less worry about finances and investing for the future / retirement.
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