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re: Driving on ice and snow

Posted on 2/15/21 at 2:53 am to
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29460 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 2:53 am to
quote:

Those things are beasts in snow/ice.




About 10 years ago at a lafayette festival I spotted this amazing parking spot on this hill. Like a 55 degree incline. Wet grass. Figured I'd lock diffs and crawl up it. Circle around and a jeep 4dr is attempting it. And failing. He gives up. And i make my run. And my rear bumper keeps hitting the ground.

Humbled. I park.

We are both walking up at the same time looking at the spot like it's our Everest.

This little blomde in an awd rx350 hits it at about 15. Pops up, spins the street tires until she buries it. And hops out.




Humbled.
Posted by undrafted
DHA
Member since Oct 2009
1007 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 2:54 am to
The secret is accelerating the entire time
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29460 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 2:58 am to
The sevret is having a vehicle someone else paid for.
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
16443 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 3:09 am to
quote:

The sevret is having a vehicle someone else paid for.


Or be able to hire a World Rally driver to chaffeur you around in it, preferably a Swede or Finn.
Posted by McVick
Member since Jan 2011
4604 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 6:30 am to
quote:

Part of me wants to go find a wide open parking lot or a field and do donuts for a while, if things get as bad as predicted. But I know I probably shouldn't.


Let me tell you, from experience, it's fun as hell. If you have a FWD vehicle pop it into reverse about halfway through the lot and rip the e-brake. It's also super fun if you have a small boxy vehicle like a Wrangler.
Posted by illinitiger
North then South
Member since Feb 2009
3302 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:43 am to
It’s like driving a boat when slowing down. Just go slow and coast to a stop.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
65061 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:47 am to
We should adopt their driving schools. Kids start at 14 and it takes 3 years. They have to put in time on a skid pad. When I moved up north I had never driven on ice and snow so I set my alarm the first night it snowed. Went to the minor league park nearby (no curbs and few light poles) and started practicing. A cop showed up took one look at my license plate and told me he would give me some tips. We spent an hour drifting around the lot in my truck and his squad car. Good times
Posted by elcid
Band Camp
Member since Mar 2007
3036 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:57 am to
Baws who drive trucks think they can fly through ice and that would be a MAJOR mistake, the bed of your truck makes the weight over the rear axle light and it will slide.. People who know better usually put 300lb sanbags in the bed over the rear axle during winter months.
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 7:58 am
Posted by Stexas
SWLA
Member since May 2013
6836 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:59 am to
My yeti and truck nuts take the place of sandbags
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73075 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:01 am to
Yeah man. This is good info and people really should digest it, but I really really don’t even want to try and brave that shite. Seems entirely too dangerous with the layer of ice we got in Houston laying beneath that snow
Posted by Vastmind
B Ara
Member since Sep 2013
5322 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:07 am to
On my first day living in North Idaho, I was driving down a curved hill. I started to slide and slammed on the breaks. I popped a perfect 360, no damage.

I’ve learned a lot in the last 6 weeks about driving in bad conditions. The most surprising is that my manual Accord handles the roads better than my wife’s 4Runner rental.
Posted by Vastmind
B Ara
Member since Sep 2013
5322 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:09 am to
quote:

People who know better usually put 300lb sanbags in the bed over the rear axle during winter months


In Idaho they fill their bed with snow.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
65061 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:11 am to
I thought they use potatoes
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:48 am to
If you've never driven on snow, just realize you've been given the chance to be able to drift around corners and not have a fancy vehicle. Driving in snow is fun and it is like racing on a dirt track, only you don't have to be going fast. Enjoy, it is truly a fun experience. You need longer to brake is the only catch.

Edit: Obviously highway speeds are dangerous to have "fun" on.

Ice sucks, there are no brakes.
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 8:59 am
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
65061 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:50 am to
Nothing better than being the first vehichle on the road and 5" of fresh powder.
Posted by KemoSabe65
70605
Member since Mar 2018
6316 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:53 am to
Going to house shortly for my flat shovel to clean the walkway at apartment, will update after trip.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108270 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:56 am to
When I lived where it iced alot, i took driving in it just how I learned how to drive and dock a boat : only go as fast as you are willing to hit something

And it worked. I skidded out multiple times and nudged objects at 5-10mph. No harm to foul
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9735 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:30 am to
The faster you go the more friction and heat. Heat melts ice. Science.
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
10699 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:44 am to
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If you have a manual, it's better to downshift than hit the breaks in a lot of situations on ice.

*Brakes.

And while this is highly up-voted, I don't see how this is true. It's easier to moderate the brakes, and the brakes are on all four wheels--not true on non awd/4wd cards.

I have a stick in my car and my first car in the 80s was a manual.

Edit, I'm not talking about letting the engine braking do it's work when decelerating normally. I do that all the time anyway. I do NOT downshift to do it, though. Just whatever gear I happened to be in I let it pull down to above idle. I'd say that's fine. I would just avoid any sudden disruption in the grip--and I would think downshifting is much more disruptive than braking.

And in normal driving, brakes are much cheaper than transmissions, which is why I don't downshift to slow the car.
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 9:54 am
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
65061 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:45 am to
As more cars ride on it it will be safer. Tonight some will refreeze though
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