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re: Drag Queen buys boy who attended child friendly drag show girl’s dresses
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:44 am to upgrayedd
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:44 am to upgrayedd
Children cannot legally sign a contract because they're deemed to lack the capacity to understand it. That's centuries of Common Law in every country within the Anglosphere. But yet there are people who argue that a child has the capacity to undergo a sex change, hormone therapy or puberty blockers.
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Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:44 am to Darth_Vader
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Do you mean the “information” you brought from the ADA saying puberty blockers and hormones should be given to kids going through puberty.
should? it said they CANNOT get on them until well into puberty, and that's after countless evaluations and diagnosis. like try to read just once
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The other “information” you brought was that puberty blockers are reversible.
I simply pointed out that’s been proven false. You can ignore that fact. But the fact still remains. The only question is do you want to cling to the false narrative of the leftist pro-trans movement or do you want to accept reality?
no, you provided one study that spoke on bone density. I provided a link from the medical authority of the country in which your study was conducted which said similar, but also that they are advised to be physically reversible.
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Although GIDS advises this is a physically reversible treatment if stopped, it is not known what the psychological effects may be.
It's also not known whether hormone blockers affect the development of the teenage brain or children's bones. Side effects may also include hot flushes, fatigue and mood alterations.
here's a study saying they're safe
This post was edited on 10/4/22 at 9:46 am
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:44 am to OMLandshark
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, if this was in a strip club with women barely covering their nipples as kids throw dollar bills at them, you’d think that’s appropriate?
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:45 am to SuperSaint
I don’t know what’s more sad. (1) TH03 dying on the hill of defending pedos wanting to trans the kids, or (2) the fact a worthless junkie felon turned message board troll is making a pathetic attempt to white knight for him.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:45 am to TH03
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you think this means anything?
"I can't be racist, I have a black friend."
No, this would be if I regularly protested and ridiculed members of the Klan and you still accuse me of being a member.
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I mean, they aren't. you're an absolute lunatic if you think so.
You’ve already done so in this thread.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:48 am to TH03
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this is the response given when your brain has the blue screen of death. no facts, no rebuttal, just nonsense
Yeah, the guy slandering people as being Q who have done nothing but insult them is the one presenting the facts and rebuttal.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:48 am to OMLandshark
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You’ve already done so in this thread.
because bringing facts you don't agree with clearly means I'm a pedo.
it's hilarious how emotional y'all are getting just because you don't like things that challenge your narrative.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:49 am to OMLandshark
"pay no attention, but reply to him 3 posts in a row"
you're doing great, champ
you're doing great, champ
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:49 am to TH03
You say it is reversible and normal progression will continue then you go on to list all kinds of side effects that don't seem normal or reversable. And it even lists things that are "not known" about the drugs long term.
Jesus man.
Jesus man.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:51 am to TH03
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should? it said they CANNOT get on them until well into puberty, and that's after countless evaluations and diagnosis. like try to read just once
A lot of kids are “well into” puberty before they turn 14. The fact you’re still defending this tells me all I need to know about you. You’re sick.
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no, you provided one study that spoke on bone density. I provided a link from the medical authority of the country in which your study was conducted which said similar, but also that they are advised to be physically reversible.
Bone density is pretty important, dumbfrick. How’d you like to be in your 20s and already having to deal with osteoporosis? Also, I noticed you seem to have failed to grasp the importance of this statement from your own link…
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it is not known what the psychological effects may be.
It's also not known whether hormone blockers affect the development of the teenage brain or children's bones.
It takes a special sort of indoctrination coupled with a high degree of stupidity to believe it’s ok to give these drugs to children when there a serious, lifelong effects that could impact the kid for the rest of their life. Again, you’re sick.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:51 am to lsu13lsu
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You say it is reversible and normal progression will continue then you go on to list all kinds of side effects that don't seem normal or reversable. And it even lists things that are "not known" about the drugs long term.
Jesus man.
yeah dude, I'm the NHS of the entire UK. I wrote it all.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:54 am to Darth_Vader
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It takes a special sort of indoctrination coupled with a high degree of stupidity to believe it’s ok to give these drugs to children when there a serious, lifelong effects that could impact the kid for the rest of their life. Again, you’re sick.
and if they kill themselves because darth said "just be a fricking man, I didn't have a damn daughter"? well at least they didn't wear a dress
y'all seem to think biden is just driving around grabbing up kids and shoving them full of hormones
This post was edited on 10/4/22 at 9:55 am
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:57 am to TH03
quote:There is no evidence that they are reversible because there are minimal studies that are performed that result in individuals coming off the medications.
no, you provided one study that spoke on bone density. I provided a link from the medical authority of the country in which your study was conducted which said similar, but also that they are advised to be physically reversible.
There is a reason for that too.
If you truly believe puberty blockers will help gender dysphoria, you have an ethical issue with withholding them from someone who is deemed “in need”.
On top of that, nearly every study performed involving puberty blockers has an extremely low number of individuals who decide to not move onto cross sex hormones.
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Those who start “transitioning” to the other sex may “persist” or “desist.” Persisters go on to transition. Desisters choose to stop and accept their biological sex. A 2013 article cited studies of 246 children with gender dysphoria. Of those, 207 desisted before being treated with puberty blockers. The same article reported a more recent study of 127 children. Of those, 80 chose not to begin puberty blockers. So 287 (77 percent) of 373 children desisted before treatment. Reversibility was not an issue for them.
quote:No one followed up.
What about after starting treatment? A 2018 study at the Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam reported 333 adolescents who started on puberty blockers. All except 6 (1.9 percent) went on to take cross-sex hormones. The study did not report the ages at which the 6 desisted. Were they still within the normal range of puberty onset? What were their lives like afterwards? We simply don’t know.
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A 2020 study looked at 269 children and adolescents registered at the Curium-Leiden University gender clinic in the Netherlands. Of these, 143 (38 boys and 105 girls) started treatment with GnRHa. The youngest boy to start was 11. The youngest girl was 10. Of the original 143, 125 (87 percent) later moved directly from GnRHa to cross-sex hormones.
quote:Eleven.
The 2020 study did follow up on those who did not move directly from GnRHa to cross-sex hormones. Most of them were not really desisters. Instead, they pursued alternate routes to transition. Only five (4 girls and 1 boy) no longer wanted cross-sex treatment. Combining the numbers from 2018 and 2020, there were 11 desisters out of 476 children who started on puberty blockers (about 2 percent).
Eleven out of 476.
We simply have no data on this because of a combination of “selecting” a certain population to perform the studies and the unethical nature of simply experimenting on children, a population that cannot consent.
There is no data showing that it is “completely reversible”.
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Given the lack of evidence, British pediatrician Christopher Richards and two others wrote in 2019 that puberty blockers for gender dysphoric children are a “momentous step in the dark.” Since almost all children who start on them go on to take cross-sex hormones, it seems that the “completely reversible” claim is exaggerated.
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In October 2020, a British High Court agreed that “the vast majority” of children receiving puberty blockers “proceed to the use of cross-sex hormones.” These have “potential life changing consequences for a child.” So “it is highly unlikely that a child aged 13 or under would be competent to give consent.” It is also “doubtful that a child aged 14 or 15 could understand and weigh the long-term risks and consequences.” The British National Health Service immediately stopped offering puberty blockers to children under 16.
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The bottom line is that, in practice, puberty blockers do not delay the momentous decision to transition to the other sex. In almost every case, they are the momentous decision. For children with gender dysphoria, blocking puberty is not just buying time. It is more like a point of no return.
This is an absolute unknown direction we are heading in.
And y’all are going full speed ahead without question.
This entire concept is simply experimentation on children.
This post was edited on 10/4/22 at 10:01 am
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:58 am to TH03
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then I posted actual scientific data and discussion
You posted the propaganda from the medical establishment. I’ve worked for a major Big Pharma company before, so I know how the sausage is made. I was explicitly told on more than one occasion (even as high as the CEO) that there was a certain minor disease we could cure, but where was the profit in that when we could treat it.
I was forced to sell a product that when it’s predecessor that works for 16 hours and the effects of the disease wouldn’t keep them up at night went generic and was now a mere $25, that I needed to sell them it’s successor which was the same product that worked instead for 24 hours and was $300. Ummm you’re only up for 16 hours a day and when I was being trained to sell the product, they couldn’t give me a rational reason why they needed 24 hour protection from something that doesn’t bother them in their sleep. I’m sorry, if you’re a doctor and write that prescription over the generic especially if the family can’t really afford it, you are a scumbag. I left about a month after I was told to sell that product and would have felt dirty as all hell doing it.
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and OP said he doesn't trust science because muh covid 4g or some shite.
Yeah, this same organization will tell me this guy is telling me the truth and I have to do what he says. Ummmm, no, frick off.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 10:01 am to TH03
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and you and mom jeans are now fabricating my argument to make me look like a pedo and "win" because you don't have the critical thinking skills to process/assess information that is contradictory to your beliefs.
Yeah guess what: critical thinkers don’t just say what the NIH says is a fact and there’s no use arguing from there. Last year I got in an argument with a retard who said “Why think when you can just listen to the experts?” Honestly, that’s the Democrats new slogan these days: “Thinking: A Dangerous Pastime.”
Posted on 10/4/22 at 10:03 am to fr33manator
Exactly, this is 100% on the parents. Very scary we have adults raising their kids like this
Posted on 10/4/22 at 10:04 am to Scruffy
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You we’re flatout wrong in your statement that puberty blockers are reversible, and anyone who states that is lying.
It is the very concept of the drug in the name “puberty BLOCKER”.
And by the way, one of those drugs is called Lupron. Lupron is also used to chemically castrate sex offenders. But nah, just give it to your kid. Completely reversible according to TH03.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 10:11 am to TH03
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Use of GnRH analogues pauses puberty, providing time to determine if a child's gender identity is long lasting. It also gives children and their families time to think about or plan for the psychological, medical, developmental, social and legal issues ahead.
If an adolescent child decides to stop taking GnRH analogues, puberty will resume and the normal progression of the physical and emotional changes of puberty will continue.
Ummmm, yeah, blatant lie. It’s not like pausing a movie like they falsely claim. Seriously if you pause puberty for an 11 year old and at 16 decides to start it again, does it make sense they’ll develop at the same rate as their peers? No, the fact is kids need puberty for IQ development, bone development (many trans kids develop osteoporosis for instance), sex development, and even possibly never having an orgasm. Here’s the #1 sex change surgeon (who I hope is thrown in prison soon) in the United States Marci Bowers admitting as much: Twitter
You’re just getting fricking owned, and I haven’t even gotten to your response on my Jazz Jennings post which just buries you.
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yet another reason why any of this care is done only after years and years of determining whether or not it's the right course of action. which is what the information I posted earlier was showing if any of you can actually read.
Then why do I have no shortage of these people? At this point I’m making like three threads a month on this rough subject.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 10:14 am to OMLandshark
maybe the kid is smarter than the drag queen and he is gonna hook his honeys up with some new threads. hustling early. I like it.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 10:15 am to Scruffy
The science is settled you qanon lunatic!
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