re: Dr. Jason Karp shows the difference between Canada's Fruit Loop Cereal and America's

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again none of that matters. once calories and protein are equated...we lose bodyfat at the same rate...no matter if the rest of the calories come from hfcs or from fruit or from animal fat

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But when we eat hfcs we don't feel full so we eat more...more calories.

When we eat proteins we feel full very quickly...less calories.

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fruit loop consumption remains optional

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Yeah...plenty of options out there with nothing mixed in it...Oh wait.

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no we agree there. i was saying...im not gonig to worry to try and find a solution to a problem that does not even exist yet everyone can find meat, real meat. you are worried about something that you think may happen in the future, and i was saying if something like that does happen....i will be fine

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Do you think it’s possible that a lot of our societies problems are because everyone’s fricking 30% gayer than they used to be? Lol

And if so do you think that might be because of plummeting T levels? And if so do you think it’s because of the quality of the available slop everyone’s eating (and have always eaten, it just used to be better slop)?

That’s why I care. Long tail consequences that will reach over into your nutritionally sound bunker.

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we ate less and moved more


fastest way to make americans healthier would be implement true La Seirra style PE program starting in Pre-k


second would be preaching the health benefits of walks, especially 10 min walks after each meal

third would be stop telling people its ok to be frickign fat and pretending its healthy

fourth would be to start preaching the benefits of real strength training and propping up people that look damn good

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I agree with all this.

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fifth would be preaching the benefits of whole foods like meat, eggs, potatoes, rice etc

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So avoid HFCSs.

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So avoid HFCSs.

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avoid added sugars

you are so wrapped up with HFCS (which is 45% glucose/55% fructose), but added "healthy" sugars like agave are 90% fructose

I think the problem is how prevalent it is. We all know we should not be pounding regular sodas. But, I'm not sure if people really understood until the last few years how much of it is in bread, ketchup, bbq sauce, etc. I was surprised to see it is in some non-sugared cereals.

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Do you think it’s possible that a lot of our societies problems are because everyone’s fricking 30% gayer than they used to be? Lol

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that stems from 2 things imo

1) lack of fathers in the household. the nuclear family has been vilified. less than 23% of males grew up in a family with mother and father. 77% of teachers are female. so most males go through the day having zero interaction with strong males

2) we have made it cool to be gay in the media. we have vilified masculinity. we have made being a pussy and being gay and feminine cool because females have taken over everything from head of household, teaching and the media.


T levels are plummetting because we have crushed things like lifting weights, eating protein and overall the things i spoke about earlier

i think it has some to do with diet, but not for "chemicals" in our food.

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I think the problem is how prevalent it is. We all know we should not be pounding regular sodas. But, I'm not sure if people really understood until the last few years how much of it is in bread, ketchup, bbq sauce, etc. I was surprised to see it is in some non-sugared cereals.

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it would just be real sugar replacing it, same amount of calories

like i said....we have dozens and dozens of extremely well controlled studies and tons of meta analysis that show once calories and protein are equated we lose body fat at the same rate.

we have no studies that show the same for keto or carnivore and tons of studies on those diets that show what i posted

and ftr i eat mainly IF with keto/carnivore but thats just my preferred eating pattern that allows me to hit my macros most consistently.

Maybe RFK can just force companies to put a giant cigarette style warning on any food product with seed oils in them lol.

“Feel free to eat this bag of chips with a giant skull on it, lil pig”

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not really. The main ingredient might be healthier but any major chain grocery store only sells ultra processed cereal

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Only? Have you been inside a store recently? Honest question? I think tons of you guys on here never grocery shop

ETA: Besides that point, I would argue that cereal in general really isn't a good breakfast option to choose from in the first place