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Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:25 am to baldona
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The low hanging fruit for American health is lack of exercise.
can't outrun a bad diet. I know that all to well.
shite, I got guys warehouse guys that do 20k steps a day that are fat as frick.
people, generally speaking, can't cook for shite and eat slop because they live under the illusion that cooking healthy is "too expensive" "takes too much time" "i got to shop at whole foods to eat health"
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:26 am to lsu777
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or i could just educate myself, educate my family and we make our own decision to buy beef in bulk either from place like sams/costco or even better from local farmer eat meat, rice, potatoes, fruit, eggs to make up 90% of your diet and get 8k steps and you will be healthier than 95% of people in America
Bro you are talking to a guy who did literal carnivore for like 18 months.
But if you don’t think you have to worry about Sams beef being compromised with New World Order bullshite in the coming years/decades you are fooling yourself.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:26 am to dtett
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While partially true, the EU doesn't have the same requirements for reporting on ingredients that the US does. They very well may have the same ingredients but aren't required to report.
This is largely what is going on but people are too dumb to do research and act like Europe is astronomically superior to the US food wise
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:28 am to Hester Carries
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Of course. We know. That’s kind of the point. The machine decides what slop we eat for the most part. That’s not gonna change. But now you are essentially advocating against trying to steer the machine towards better slop.
You have to understand the game
na im just of the opinion that most people dont give a frick no matter what we do.
if they change it and its healthier as far as chemicals go...it wont matter...people will still be getting fat AF and eat too many calories, not enough protein and will still not exercise or even walk
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:28 am to GumboPot
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Also, note that fructose is a leptin blocker. Food companies know this.
Am I remembering correctly that leptin is what makes you feel full/satisfied?
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:28 am to lsu777
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but 99% of people will just replace the calories from hfcs with calories from real sugar. its the same amount of calories
I read a study about 5 years ago and once HCFS were introduced into our soft drinks in the 1980s caloric intake increased by 150 calories per meal.
Why? Fructose is a leptin blocker. Leptin is the hormone that make you feel full.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:29 am to GumboPot
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Yeah, no.
Get to know the difference between sugars and how each is metabolized then you will understand why HFCSs are bad.
I'm not saying HFCS is good I agree with you 100%.
I just am more on board with freedom of choice and that American's obesity issue is due to laziness and lack of burning calories every day by being too sedimentary.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:29 am to Hester Carries
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Bro you are talking to a guy who did literal carnivore for like 18 months.
But if you don’t think you have to worry about Sams beef being compromised with New World Order bullshite in the coming years/decades you are fooling yourself.
maybe eventually but there will always be outlets for healthy food for people like me
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:29 am to UGATiger26
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You know what Europeans are free to do? Shop for their groceries without having to research what chemicals are in them and how those chemicals can be detrimental to long-term health.
You are such a naive little fricker
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:30 am to lsu777
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no the problem is people eat this crap and dont vote with their pocket book
stop buying crap like this and companies will change
all they are doing is supplying the demand for the product
we have made massive strides in healthy options in the middle of the store.
my kid prefers these to goldfish. 5g protein, 0g sugar and 4g fiber. Just an example of the strides the market has made to compete with the slop.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:30 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Banning shite has ALWAYS failed, as more dangerous black market alternatives thrive.
You really think there's gonna be a black market for froot loops?
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 10:31 am
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:31 am to lsu777
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but 99% of people will just replace the calories from hfcs with calories from real sugar. its the same amount of calories
Fructose has a much higher propensity to be lipogenic (fat creation).
Glucose has a much higher propensity to be burned for energy.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:32 am to ProjectP2294
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Am I remembering correctly that leptin is what makes you feel full/satisfied?
Yes.
Block some of it and you don't feel full and satisfied as quickly so you over eat.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:34 am to lsu777
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who cares? You nor your kids shouldnt be eating fricking fruit loops anyways, not at any appreciable rate. Dont eat that shite and if you do, well....you deserve anything that comes to you.
How about the FDA do its fricking job and make those very harmful ingredients illegal to put in our food like these other countries governments have done? They are complicit in our poisoning because they are likely benefiting from it just like the corporations that are doing it. $$$$$$
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:36 am to KamaCausey_LSU
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Wood pulp (cellulose) in parmesan cheese as an example.
You are dumb. Cellulose is a naturally occurring fiber in fruits and vegetables
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:36 am to jizzle6609
quote:He's quite the visionary if he was eating McDonald's decades before it's founding.
Warren Buffet has had McDonalds for the last 94 years every single day
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:37 am to GumboPot
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I read a study about 5 years ago and once HCFS were introduced into our soft drinks in the 1980s caloric intake increased by 150 calories per meal.
Why? Fructose is a leptin blocker. Leptin is the hormone that make you feel full.
maybe, i would have to read the study....but my point is...the average american just doesnt give a frick for the most part. not that they dont know....just dont give a frick no matter how much info they give them
and i agree that hcfs is not good for you...i just think average american would just replace the calories with something else
now if RFK and trump are willing to implement a La Seirra style PE program throughout or even just pushups, chins, bodyweight lower body and running...well 100% support that
if they want to implement good nutrition education 100% support that
if they want to get labels of foods that warn of the crap in it...100% support that
if they want hfcs banned...fine with that...i like taste of coke with real sugar much better when i actually drink it...much better anyways
but it will make price of food go up and it will not change the appetite issue.
we also have a low glp issue in the obese here. GLP1 are treating this but we need to know the cause. is it an effect of over indulgence eventually lowering the signal or are these people born that away or was it something they ate alot as a kid that caused it. its imporant to know
was also have to get away from the fit at any size and fat is beautiful bullshite. I agree with JFK that it is a national security issue
we have glorified and normalized being fat, that has to change first before we make any difference and we also have the problem of idiots in media demonizing weight lifting because it tends to make people lean right in politics
and i guess im jaded...most people are just not going to care no matter what imo
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:37 am to TripleBarrelBluff1
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You really think there's gonna be a black market for froot loops?
there sure are a bunch of apologists for giant food corporations on tigerdroppings. They would put nicotine in cereal if they could get away with it.Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:38 am to baldona
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I just am more on board with freedom of choice and that American's obesity issue is due to laziness and lack of burning calories every day by being too sedimentary.
I know what you are saying.
But HFCS is in almost in all process foods. You have to be educated and disciplined to avoid it. It makes things taste delicious.
Fructose is an evolutionary product to advance fruiting plant species. Animals are attracted to fruiting plants with high fructose content so they are eaten and their seeds are spread.
But, again fructose in fruits is nowhere near as bioavailable as manmade HFCS. Fructose in fruits are bound by fiber so they are much less bioavailable.
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