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re: Dow selloff intensifies after Powell suggests that rates to be higher than anticipated

Posted on 3/7/23 at 2:11 pm to
Posted by Warfox
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Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 2:11 pm to
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END THE FED


And return to the Gold Standard!
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 2:24 pm to
Yes
Posted by wasteland
City of peace
Member since Apr 2011
5907 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 2:30 pm to
Let it crash and burn
Posted by LSUBadger
Member since Jan 2014
2238 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 2:38 pm to
The last two stimulus bills have hardly been spent yet or the insane omnibus.

They are going to keep inflation high for the next two years. We will be lucky if the fed doesn’t have to boost the rate to 10% just to overcome the headwinds of the dumbasses in DC working at cross purposes with them. Next month they should let Powell be the one asking them questions
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 2:50 pm to
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Hope you like higher rates....because that's what we are getting.



After the global lockdown and stimmy checks, there was never any other option.
Posted by Civildawg
Member since May 2012
9753 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 2:56 pm to
The fed shouldn’t have lowered the hikes to .25% last time
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 2:59 pm to
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After the global lockdown and stimmy checks, there was never any other option.


Yes there was. Energy independence would have been a damn good start. That was ended on day 1 of this vegetable's administration in favor of clown renewables.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
41627 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 3:05 pm to
Joe Bidens America
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
60745 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 3:11 pm to
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Yes there was. Energy independence would have been a damn good start.


While I like this idea, I doubt it would have had much of an impact on the inflation situation. Oil and Gas is still a globally traded commodity.
Posted by ImaObserver
Member since Aug 2019
2418 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 4:15 pm to
Should have known it was coming if you had been following the trades made by of political elite.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 4:19 pm to
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Yes there was. Energy independence would have been a damn good start.


Nope.

Stimmy checks, PPP and extended/enhanced COVID benefits injected an IN-frickING-SANE amount of liquidity into the economy in a ridiculously short amount of time. Continued energy independence wasn't going to do much against that level of currency inflation.

Also, there was never a chance that the Biden administration wasn't going to treat O&G as the enemy. That means continued energy independence was on death row the moment Biden walked into the Oval Office. So, no, it was only an option in our dreams of an alternate reality.

Most importantly though, mine was a response about JPow and the Fed. They have absolutely no control over energy policy.

So there was never any other option.
Posted by Decisions
Member since Mar 2015
1552 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 4:37 pm to
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So why can’t we ramp up supply?


Bringing a copper mine or semiconductor fabrication facility or cotton spinning mill online isn’t as simple as flipping a switch. It takes years of planning and construction. It’s made even worse in the U.S. with all the ridiculous permitting and palm greasing required.

quote:

While I like this idea, I doubt it would have had much of an impact on the inflation situation. Oil and Gas is still a globally traded commodity.


There’s a reason why we have WTI and Brent distinctions in the oil market. They might be globally traded, but supplies are relatively regional in usage, ESPECIALLY natural gas. It takes years to build up the infrastructure and shipping necessary to transport LNG long distances.
Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
7935 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 4:37 pm to
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Let it crash and burn



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wasteland




checks out
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
38534 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 4:40 pm to
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Also, there was never a chance that the Biden administration wasn't going to treat O&G as the enemy. That means continued energy independence was on death row the moment Biden walked into the Oval Office. So, no, it was only an option in our dreams of an alternate reality.


We have remained net exporters of petroleum products throughout all of Biden's term so far and will be net exporters of crude this year for the first time ever.

We are more energy independent today then at any other time in our lives.
Posted by Grievous Angel
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Member since Dec 2008
10319 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 4:43 pm to
Money Board.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
55510 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 7:20 am to
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We have remained net exporters of petroleum products throughout all of Biden's term so far


This is true.

quote:

We are more energy independent today then at any other time in our lives.


This is not. We're still ~700k barrels per day behind where we were pre-COVID LINK. This shortfall is a big part of why we saw the spike in fuel prices last summer and are likely to see them again this summer (except there's almost no SPR inventory left to pull from to lessen the impact).

Natural Gas production has bounced back and spot prices have dropped considerably, but that hasn't filtered down to the consumer level yet (which is why energy is still expensive for many).
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