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Does everyone's body have a default weight?
Posted on 3/19/18 at 7:33 pm
Posted on 3/19/18 at 7:33 pm
Ie if you do nothing you will default to X weight +/- 7 lbs.
Example: guy weighs 200 lbs.
He diets and excercises for 6 months and drops to 175.
He falls off the wagon, doesn't excercise, eats garbage and within only 2 months balloons back to 200.
However, for the next 10 months he continues to eat like shite and not work out.....and he still weighs 200 lbs.
My question is what allows him to baloon the 25 in 2 months, but then turns around and keeps him from going to 300 lbs (10 months at 25 lbs per every 2 month diet he had when he ballooned)
What is keeping him at 200?
Example: guy weighs 200 lbs.
He diets and excercises for 6 months and drops to 175.
He falls off the wagon, doesn't excercise, eats garbage and within only 2 months balloons back to 200.
However, for the next 10 months he continues to eat like shite and not work out.....and he still weighs 200 lbs.
My question is what allows him to baloon the 25 in 2 months, but then turns around and keeps him from going to 300 lbs (10 months at 25 lbs per every 2 month diet he had when he ballooned)
What is keeping him at 200?
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 7:38 pm to Kujo
Complete guess:
At 200lbs, his fat self burns 2500 calories a day because that's what it takes to move around his fat self
At 175lbs, his body only needs 2000 calories a day because it takes his body less energy since he is smaller
So if he eats 2500 a day at 175 lbs, he will gain weight until he reaches his 200lb fat self
Again
At 200lbs, his fat self burns 2500 calories a day because that's what it takes to move around his fat self
At 175lbs, his body only needs 2000 calories a day because it takes his body less energy since he is smaller
So if he eats 2500 a day at 175 lbs, he will gain weight until he reaches his 200lb fat self
Again
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 3/19/18 at 7:40 pm to Kujo
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What is keeping him at 200?
Maintenance calories, which varies based on metabolism, activity and person. You routinely go below whatever your maintenance calories are and you’ll lose weight, go above and you’ll gain weight
Posted on 3/19/18 at 7:40 pm to Kujo
i think this was proven
Posted on 3/19/18 at 7:42 pm to Kujo
Not possible. If you eat at a deficit, you will lose weight over time. If you eat at a surplus, you will gain weight over time. You are not special. You are not magic. You do not defy science.
If you think you are dieting but you are not losing weight, you don't math well and/or you are lying to yourself about your consumption (i.e. not measuring/weighing things, not counting calorie dense things like oils and butter and dressings, etc).
You can eat pizza every single day and stay the same weight. As long as you are not eating more calories in pizza than your body needs to maintain.
If you think you are dieting but you are not losing weight, you don't math well and/or you are lying to yourself about your consumption (i.e. not measuring/weighing things, not counting calorie dense things like oils and butter and dressings, etc).
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However, for the next 10 months he continues to eat like shite and not work out.....and he still weighs 200 lbs.
You can eat pizza every single day and stay the same weight. As long as you are not eating more calories in pizza than your body needs to maintain.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 7:44 pm to Kujo
I’m pretty sure it just comes down to carlorie intake vs. calories burned. The more you weigh the more calories you burn just by being alive, so at a certain point you’ll quit gaining weight.
Now everyone does have default frame and genetics that causes differences in metabolism and things. But that can be overcame with will power, yet that’s genetic too I guess?
Tldr: Yes and No
Now everyone does have default frame and genetics that causes differences in metabolism and things. But that can be overcame with will power, yet that’s genetic too I guess?
Tldr: Yes and No
Posted on 3/19/18 at 7:44 pm to LouisianaLady
quote:
You are not special. You are not magic.
Don’t tell me what I can’t do!
Mama says all things are possible!
Posted on 3/19/18 at 7:45 pm to LouisianaLady
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You are not special. You are not magic. You do not defy science.
This made me
Nicely done, LL
Posted on 3/19/18 at 7:47 pm to liz18lsu
The problem with her post is the op never mentioned deficit/surplus....
So the OP absolutely did post a plausible scenario
So the OP absolutely did post a plausible scenario
Posted on 3/19/18 at 7:48 pm to lsupride87
Touche. Good catch. I just figured the incorrect interpretation of setpoint was his implication. But yes, if "eating like garbage" doesn't imply a surplus, then OP did post a plausible scenario.
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 7:49 pm
Posted on 3/19/18 at 7:50 pm to liz18lsu
While lots of factors, your thyroid really can cause big shifts.
When my thyroid went out I put on like 80 lbs in less than a year. Since then I have dropped about 10 lbs. a year for the past 6 years but it has been a real struggle as I now eat 1/3 to 1/2 of what I used to eat and can still gain weight.
When my thyroid went out I put on like 80 lbs in less than a year. Since then I have dropped about 10 lbs. a year for the past 6 years but it has been a real struggle as I now eat 1/3 to 1/2 of what I used to eat and can still gain weight.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 7:52 pm to Kujo
quote:spoken like a glandular problem
Kujo
Posted on 3/19/18 at 7:59 pm to LouisianaLady
I have a range I’ve been in my entire adult life. It’s a 10-15lb swing depending on whether I’m eating like shite, not eating and skipping meals or eating well and staying healthy. Whatever it is I never go below a certian weight and I can never get above a certian weight.
However my body fat and muscle mass will fluctuate quite a bit.
My last body test a month ago my BMI was at 23, body fat at 13.8 and muscle mass at 80.
However my body fat and muscle mass will fluctuate quite a bit.
My last body test a month ago my BMI was at 23, body fat at 13.8 and muscle mass at 80.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 8:02 pm to Kujo
Since everyone here is ashamed of being fat, I'll be the first..
I'm 6'1, 195..
Y'all fatties next.
I'm 6'1, 195..
Y'all fatties next.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 8:03 pm to Kujo
This just goes to show that weight is caused by genetics and not what you eat
Posted on 3/19/18 at 8:05 pm to el Gaucho
Posted on 3/19/18 at 8:07 pm to el Gaucho
Agreed. It's why I look at people of heft on scooters with empathy. Filling up the front basket isn't the cause, it's the symptom. Symptom of internal agony and depression.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 8:07 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Complete guess:
At 200lbs, his fat self burns 2500 calories a day because that's what it takes to move around his fat self
At 175lbs, his body only needs 2000 calories a day because it takes his body less energy since he is smaller
So if he eats 2500 a day at 175 lbs, he will gain weight until he reaches his 200lb fat self
Again
So what about these bean pole people who eat poboys and burgers all day but never put on a pound?
Posted on 3/19/18 at 8:09 pm to Houma Sapien
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So what about these bean pole people who eat poboys and burgers all day but never put on a pound?
Tape worms
Posted on 3/19/18 at 8:11 pm to Houma Sapien
quote:
So what about these bean pole people who eat poboys and burgers all day but never put on a pound
As surprising as it sounds, skinny people are more active than fat people.
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