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re: Does anybody know someone who was wronged by the justice system? #metoo mvmnt
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:19 pm to TexasTiger08
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:19 pm to TexasTiger08
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I think if you knew this guy on a personal level, you might have a different opinion.
That’s kind of my point. No one thinks their friends are capable of those things, innocent or otherwise.
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Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:22 pm to TexasTiger08
I’ve mentioned it before, a college acquaintance spent the weekend in jail after his ex girlfriend falsely accuse him of rape.
He was able to prove that he was out or state at the time of alleged rape, and they dropped charges.
The university fought tooth and nail to prevent him from coming back and taking classes again. I think he was out or school for a year fighting the administration.
I think they were too embarrassed and just wanted him to go away.
He was able to prove that he was out or state at the time of alleged rape, and they dropped charges.
The university fought tooth and nail to prevent him from coming back and taking classes again. I think he was out or school for a year fighting the administration.
I think they were too embarrassed and just wanted him to go away.
This post was edited on 3/24/21 at 10:23 pm
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:23 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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Fact. DA’s hate going to trial. It’s time consuming, costly, and there is always the risk of losing the case.
A mentor criminal defense attorney told me to PUSH the prosecutor in every case. make them work. Earn that government salary. You will beat the government if you either make them work or are about to embarrass them.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:29 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Had a friend who had a real bitch for a neighbor. She called the cops and said she saw him abusing their kids. Of course, the State shows up and removes the kids, his name gets blasted and his life spirals downward.
Of course it was later dropped but the damage was done. His life has never been the same.
I think I’d commit murder.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:29 pm to Lima Whiskey
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He was able to prove that he was out or state at the time of alleged rape, and they dropped charges.
Bet she wasn’t charged though, and that’s where the problem lies. Proponents will say that charging a woman for “false” accusations will dissuade actual rape victims from coming forward, so the accused is bent over a barrel. Even after proving it was done out of spite, rarely will the law prosecute the woman for filing a false report.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:32 pm to Fishwater
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A mentor criminal defense attorney told me to PUSH the prosecutor in every case. make them work. Earn that government salary. You will beat the government if you either make them work or are about to embarrass them
You’ve got to be smart about it. When I was a prosecutor, I broke it off in some people’s asses a few times because they made me work too hard. Didn’t realize how good a case I actually had until they made me really focus on it and were dicks about it.
This post was edited on 3/24/21 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:33 pm to mikelbr
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I know one in Angola for life b/c he wouldn't take a deal. Boggles my brain how the hell Lewis Unglesby and his family thought that was a good idea considering the evidence and testimony.
Life? Murder charge?
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:36 pm to TexasTiger08
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Unfortunately, this just gives me more reason to hate our society and these extremely liberal movements.
That may be in this case, but it ain't the liberal side that's been prosecuting and convicting people wrongly for decades.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:37 pm to touchdownjeebus
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I was almost wronged but I fought that shite with every dime I had and eventually came out on top. I was broke, but I was vindicated. You never get made whole, but wtf are you going to do?
Can you elaborate?
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:41 pm to CatfishJohn
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I think I’d commit murder.
Yeah I think I would have a real hard time not burying the parents and a prosecutor here.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:42 pm to TexasTiger08
As a whole the main thing wrong with the justice system is that there is both too much and too little prison.
There are a few people who need to be in prison because they deserve to be punished because what they have done is so bad. There are a few who need to be in there to protect the rest of us. And the rest don’t really need to be in prison and it doesn’t really matter if they are or not.
The people who need to be in prison tend to get out too soon and the people who don’t need to be there are there too long.
We could reduce our current prison population by 90% or more with no deleterious effects on society.
There are a few people who need to be in prison because they deserve to be punished because what they have done is so bad. There are a few who need to be in there to protect the rest of us. And the rest don’t really need to be in prison and it doesn’t really matter if they are or not.
The people who need to be in prison tend to get out too soon and the people who don’t need to be there are there too long.
We could reduce our current prison population by 90% or more with no deleterious effects on society.
This post was edited on 3/24/21 at 10:44 pm
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:43 pm to TDsngumbo
I had the opposite experience with the St. Gabriel police department. Should've totally gotten a dwi in college and somehow got out of it.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:47 pm to slackster
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That’s kind of my point. No one thinks their friends are capable of those things, innocent or otherwise
I know this is typically how it works. I had some acquaintances in college that I definitely thought would be capable of some bad shite FWIW. I guess that road can go both ways.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:54 pm to Cossatotjoe
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You’ve got to be smart about it.
Absolutely you do. Like the old song says, Gotta know when to hold em and know when to fold em.
Posted on 3/24/21 at 11:19 pm to danilo
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Can you elaborate?
Not enough ink on the message board to go through all of the shite I had to deal with. Point is, you make a choice whether to fight or not. No matter your choice, you don’t leave the situation whole.
Either you plea, which I refused, or you fight. If you fight and lose, you are gonna get fricked. If you fight and win, you will probably spent a mint, and some will always consider you guilty, even though you didn’t do shite.
Posted on 3/25/21 at 4:02 am to TexasTiger08
We had a vendor for my parents business in a similar situation.
We had heard around town he had taken a plea deal for accusing his ex wife’s daughter had made. Several years later he ended up dating one of our employees and we got the whole story. This guy and the wife were about to go through a divorce when the accusations were made. His lawyer gets a plea deal with no jail time, convinced guy to take it or else face the possibility of 20 years. Several years later the daughter comes forward to the District Attorney and says that she lied about the whole thing at her mothers request. They would not remove it from his record because he pled guilty. (If he had went to trial and prison, his record would now be clear). Also, refused to press charges against the mom.
We had heard around town he had taken a plea deal for accusing his ex wife’s daughter had made. Several years later he ended up dating one of our employees and we got the whole story. This guy and the wife were about to go through a divorce when the accusations were made. His lawyer gets a plea deal with no jail time, convinced guy to take it or else face the possibility of 20 years. Several years later the daughter comes forward to the District Attorney and says that she lied about the whole thing at her mothers request. They would not remove it from his record because he pled guilty. (If he had went to trial and prison, his record would now be clear). Also, refused to press charges against the mom.
Posted on 3/25/21 at 4:24 am to TexasTiger08
It happens all the time.
Posted on 3/25/21 at 4:36 am to TexasTiger08
If he has evidence (especially picture) of him being at a party at the time the accuser is saying something happened, that seems like it would be a good alibi to have.
I guess people are different, but if I didn't do something, I'd rather go down fighting than taking a plea deal that says I'm guilty of something I didn't do. I don't care how liberal the city is or how much time I'm facing.
Also, he seems like he has a shitty lawyer. Any lawyer worth a frick would fight it for him if he truly had evidence to prove he didn't do it.
I guess people are different, but if I didn't do something, I'd rather go down fighting than taking a plea deal that says I'm guilty of something I didn't do. I don't care how liberal the city is or how much time I'm facing.
Also, he seems like he has a shitty lawyer. Any lawyer worth a frick would fight it for him if he truly had evidence to prove he didn't do it.
Posted on 3/25/21 at 5:07 am to saint tiger225
These cases make it more and more clear that there needs to at least be an option to punish the false accuser. If the jury believes that the crime happens, but there isn’t enough evidence, that’s one thing, but if all the evidence points to a made up, false accusation, the accuser should face the same consequences as the accused.
Posted on 3/25/21 at 7:25 am to TexasTiger08
I was wronged by some folks at the court house. They sold me a marriage license and didn't even try to talk me out of it.
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