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re: Doctor posts health insurance incentive plan for giving the COVID vaccine
Posted on 5/30/24 at 10:23 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Posted on 5/30/24 at 10:23 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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May be true, but she also didn't treat 6K patients in 90 days for covid
I worked in a clinic at the time where we treated 90-100 patients a day in early 2022 (winter of death) for covid in smalltown Florida. do the math.
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Posted on 5/30/24 at 10:34 am to stniaSxuaeG
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So this lady saw 50 patients per day, 7 days per week for four months without taking a day off, and ALL of them were COVID patients? Sounds like she’s full of shite.
ETA: yes she’s definitely a quack.
you don't see an issue with insurance providers incentivizing vax distribution?
Posted on 5/30/24 at 10:39 am to High C
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It’s been up for almost 24 hours with no community notes or other attempts to debunk it.
Because this is common knowledge. Docs get 3 incentives for vaccinating (across the board). One for administering, one on the insurance billing side, and then a percentage as a commission.
Fairly easy to see why the US has the highest SIDS (sudden infant death syndrome) and autism rates in the world and also the highest vaccination rates.
keep trusting the science
Posted on 5/30/24 at 10:39 am to Joe_Dirte
quote:They have always done this and also incentivize a shite ton of other things like rehab, weight loss, etc
you don't see an issue with insurance providers incentivizing vax distribution?
The insurance companies do not want people to be sick, you realize this right? So if they truly thought the vax was poison they would be doing the opposite of incentivizing it. They wants a HEALTHY patient population
It’s amazing how damn dumb people have become over this
1. This doctor who is a complete fraud didn’t “expose” anything. This was public knowledge
2. It’s completely normal and even expected for an insurance company to promote and incentivize medicine and treatments to make their patient population healthier
3. The insurance company doesn’t own the drug you fricking morons comparing this to kickbacks
This post was edited on 5/30/24 at 10:45 am
Posted on 5/30/24 at 10:49 am to lsupride87
so, no then
Posted on 5/30/24 at 10:52 am to Joe_Dirte
This would be the equivalent of a homeowners insurance company giving incentives for roofers to give their insured new roofs
It isn’t a conspiracy and it has always gone on in the medical insurwnxe world and makes complete logical sense.
It isn’t a conspiracy and it has always gone on in the medical insurwnxe world and makes complete logical sense.
This post was edited on 5/30/24 at 10:53 am
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:04 am to lsupride87
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It’s amazing how damn dumb people have become over this
One of the biggest proponents of the vaccine on this board calling others dumb and morons. Ironic
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:04 am to Oilfieldbiology
It was fast-tracked to get the country back to normal. The only retards saying “you won’t catch covid” from it was Biden and his entourage.
The fact of the matter is insurance would not pay for this vaccination at all if it didn’t save them money.
The fact of the matter is insurance would not pay for this vaccination at all if it didn’t save them money.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:17 am to lsupride87
quote:It was a novel vaccine platform, formulated with modified mRNA from a novel pathogen of undetermined origins with only very short term/limited safety studies. Incentivizing such an experimental medical intervention for young and healthy populations did not make any logical sense.
It isn’t a conspiracy and it has always gone on in the medical insurwnxe world and makes complete logical sense.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:21 am to High C
quote:I mean I don’t know what to say. I simply only ever deal in facts
One of the biggest proponents of the vaccine on this board calling others dumb and morons. Ironic
Covid was a virus that was almost inconsequential to the majority of the population. However, it still caused many deaths. There should have never ever been a single lockdown or restriction. The goal should have always been to educate and protect those that were more at risk. But it should be on their terms
The vaccine is safe and saved many lives as well as saved severe illness as well
Saying the vaccine 100% prevents infection was ludicrous
The vaccine should never ever have been mandatory
If you can’t simply say the above about Covid and the Covid vaccine I do not think you are a rational logical human
This post was edited on 5/30/24 at 11:23 am
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:22 am to lsupride87
All of this.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:26 am to Arbengal
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The days of the ole family Doc that gave a damn about you and your family are long gone.
Nah, out in flyover country there are still dozens of us.
Dozens.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:36 am to lsupride87
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I mean I don’t know what to say. I simply only ever deal in facts
Ok
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Covid was a virus that was almost inconsequential to the majority of the population
Agree
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However, it still caused many deaths
Debatable. Contributing factor, yes. “Cause,” maybe in a substantial minority of cases.
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There should have never ever been a single lockdown or restriction. The goal should have always been to educate and protect those that were more at risk. But it should be on their terms
Agree
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The vaccine is safe and saved many lives as well as saved severe illness as well
I think that there is a growing body of evidence to the contrary.
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Saying the vaccine 100% prevents infection was ludicrous
Agree, but it didn’t stop those with the power to say it on the biggest platforms.
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The vaccine should never ever have been mandatory
Agree, but it still happened.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:38 am to High C
quote:You can think that but there isn’t
think that there is a growing body of evidence to the contrary.
It’s only ridiculous people like what’s on the OP
quote:No, not debatable. Covid absolutely caused many deaths
Debatable. Contributing factor, yes. “Cause,” maybe in a substantial minority of cases.
quote:Ehh, not really
Agree, but it still happened.
Let me be more clear, I 100% beleive a business should be abele to make the vaccine mandatory for its employees . I believe that should be their right. I do not believe the govt should force a business to require their employees be vaccinated
As far as I know that didn’t happen
This post was edited on 5/30/24 at 11:47 am
Posted on 5/30/24 at 12:21 pm to idsrdum
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It was a novel vaccine platform, formulated with modified mRNA from a novel pathogen of undetermined origins with only very short term/limited safety studies. Incentivizing such an experimental medical intervention for young and healthy populations did not make any logical sense.
It makes logical sense if they believed the data of the vaccine and they were tired of paying MASSIVE hospitalization payments for otherwise young healthy people as happened at times in 2020.
I get a home insurance break for having an alarm system.
This is the same thing
Posted on 5/30/24 at 12:25 pm to lsupride87
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I do not believe the govt should force a business to require their employees be vaccinated As far as I know that didn’t happen
Eh
Cms refusing to pay institutions that did not make the vaccination mandatory is the same thing as mandating it
Posted on 5/30/24 at 12:33 pm to Dawgfanman
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Doctors should be required to inform patients if there are direct financial incentives for the treatments they are recommending.
You are opening up a can of worms with that one. Insurance salesmen, Financial advisors, and pretty much everyone in the service industries have incentives. Most doctors act in your best interest regardless of money (as do most people), but it’s a subjective call at best.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 1:01 pm to High C
My first reaction is, WHY?
Why did anthem need to push an incentive for the vaccine?
What was the business reason for the need to pay bonus to get the shot?
What was anthem receiving from another party to push the shot? Who was paying Anthem to offer the incentive?
I am certain Anthem was not taking the expense of the incentive program out of their own pockets. That is not how these companies operate fiscally.
Why did anthem need to push an incentive for the vaccine?
What was the business reason for the need to pay bonus to get the shot?
What was anthem receiving from another party to push the shot? Who was paying Anthem to offer the incentive?
I am certain Anthem was not taking the expense of the incentive program out of their own pockets. That is not how these companies operate fiscally.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 1:03 pm to Adam Banks
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It makes logical sense if they believed the data of the vaccine
Even Pfizer's own data clearly listed 'unknown risks' - including the lack of safety data in certain subpopulations, adverse events that would require longer follow-up to be detected, and the possibility of vaccine enhanced disease upon waning immunity.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 1:04 pm to fwtex
quote:This can’t be a real question
Why did anthem need to push an incentive for the vaccine? What was the business reason for the need to pay bonus to get the shot?
Insurance companies lose money when their patients are sick and in the hospital
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