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re: Do You Think We'll Ever Find Out What Happened To JonBenet Ramsey?
Posted on 12/19/20 at 12:12 am to thelawnwranglers
Posted on 12/19/20 at 12:12 am to thelawnwranglers
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Brother did it case closed
Yup, and the family feared they’d lose another child to the legal system and fabricated everything else.
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Posted on 12/19/20 at 12:18 am to pioneerbasketball
It was some Puerto Rican guy
Posted on 12/19/20 at 12:29 am to JustLivinTheDream
39. A neighbor heard the sound of screams.
Neighbor Melody Stanton reported hearing one scream - “a child's scream that lasted 3 to 5 seconds”. Stanton also told police “It may not have been an audible scream but rather the negative energy radiating from JonBenét.” No other neighbors reported hearing the scream.
Multiple screams would be suggestive of an ongoing struggle/torture. The only person in this entire investigation, who has ever used the word “screams” in the plural to refer to what Melody Stanton heard, is the Ramseys’ lawyer Lin Wood, in a question to Lou Smit. Even Smit immediately corrects Wood to “a scream”.
How on earth did this inaccurate statement from Lin Wood’s question find its way into Judge Carnes’ verdict as a statement of fact?
40. Relying solely on the testimony of Mr. Thomas, who has no apparent expertise as a medical examiner, plaintiff fixes the time of death at around one a.m. "suggested by the digestion rate of pineapple found in the child's stomach."
This estimate actually came from medical examiner Dr Werner Spitz. Thought this estimate was printed in Steve Thomas’s book, it was not an estimate that he made up himself.
41. Plaintiff also theorizes, based on the presence of the unidentified matter in JonBenet's stomach that, contrary to Mrs. Ramsey's testimony, she was up during the night and fed JonBenet the pineapple. There is no evidence in the record that indicates when JonBenet ate the pineapple. Defendants state they did not feed JonBenet pineapple upon returning home from the White's party that evening. Mr. White does not recall if pineapple was served at his dinner party.
Carnes completely leaves out the key fact relating to the pineapple in Jonebent’s system: that a bowl of pineapple was found on the Ramseys’ dining room table, and every member of the Ramsey family denied putting it there. Testing determined that the pineapple in Jonbenet’s system was consistent “down to the rind” with the pineapple found in the bowl.
Leaving out this detail completely changes the way this evidence is interpreted, and renders the whole debate meaningless. It is obvious that the plaintiff did not merely say “Jonbenet had pineapple in her system therefore she was awake”. It seems that either Carnes did not understand the actual argument about the significance of the pineapple, or decided to take it out of context to make it easier for her to refute.
Carnes’ statement that “there is no evidence in the record that indicates when JonBenet ate the pineapple” is also misleading. The pineapple was known for a fact to be in her duodenum (small intestine). There was no food in Jonbenet’s stomach - proving that the pineapple was the last thing she ate. Furthermore, the only other food in Jonbenet’s system was “soft green fecal matter” in her lower intestine. This proves that the food she had eaten during the day (including the crab dinner she had eaten at the Whites house) was already digested at the time of her death - unlike the pineapple. This information, all of which is in the autopsy report, does provide factual sequencing information for when that pineapple was consumed. Carnes’ inaccurate statement that the pineapple was simply “in Jonbenet’s stomach” is a deliberate simplification of the actual evidence.
It is also worth mentioning that when Fleet White was asked “was pineapple served”, he replied “I don’t believe so”. I think most people would agree that “I don’t believe so” is a negative response.
Neighbor Melody Stanton reported hearing one scream - “a child's scream that lasted 3 to 5 seconds”. Stanton also told police “It may not have been an audible scream but rather the negative energy radiating from JonBenét.” No other neighbors reported hearing the scream.
Multiple screams would be suggestive of an ongoing struggle/torture. The only person in this entire investigation, who has ever used the word “screams” in the plural to refer to what Melody Stanton heard, is the Ramseys’ lawyer Lin Wood, in a question to Lou Smit. Even Smit immediately corrects Wood to “a scream”.
How on earth did this inaccurate statement from Lin Wood’s question find its way into Judge Carnes’ verdict as a statement of fact?
40. Relying solely on the testimony of Mr. Thomas, who has no apparent expertise as a medical examiner, plaintiff fixes the time of death at around one a.m. "suggested by the digestion rate of pineapple found in the child's stomach."
This estimate actually came from medical examiner Dr Werner Spitz. Thought this estimate was printed in Steve Thomas’s book, it was not an estimate that he made up himself.
41. Plaintiff also theorizes, based on the presence of the unidentified matter in JonBenet's stomach that, contrary to Mrs. Ramsey's testimony, she was up during the night and fed JonBenet the pineapple. There is no evidence in the record that indicates when JonBenet ate the pineapple. Defendants state they did not feed JonBenet pineapple upon returning home from the White's party that evening. Mr. White does not recall if pineapple was served at his dinner party.
Carnes completely leaves out the key fact relating to the pineapple in Jonebent’s system: that a bowl of pineapple was found on the Ramseys’ dining room table, and every member of the Ramsey family denied putting it there. Testing determined that the pineapple in Jonbenet’s system was consistent “down to the rind” with the pineapple found in the bowl.
Leaving out this detail completely changes the way this evidence is interpreted, and renders the whole debate meaningless. It is obvious that the plaintiff did not merely say “Jonbenet had pineapple in her system therefore she was awake”. It seems that either Carnes did not understand the actual argument about the significance of the pineapple, or decided to take it out of context to make it easier for her to refute.
Carnes’ statement that “there is no evidence in the record that indicates when JonBenet ate the pineapple” is also misleading. The pineapple was known for a fact to be in her duodenum (small intestine). There was no food in Jonbenet’s stomach - proving that the pineapple was the last thing she ate. Furthermore, the only other food in Jonbenet’s system was “soft green fecal matter” in her lower intestine. This proves that the food she had eaten during the day (including the crab dinner she had eaten at the Whites house) was already digested at the time of her death - unlike the pineapple. This information, all of which is in the autopsy report, does provide factual sequencing information for when that pineapple was consumed. Carnes’ inaccurate statement that the pineapple was simply “in Jonbenet’s stomach” is a deliberate simplification of the actual evidence.
It is also worth mentioning that when Fleet White was asked “was pineapple served”, he replied “I don’t believe so”. I think most people would agree that “I don’t believe so” is a negative response.
Posted on 12/19/20 at 12:29 am to pioneerbasketball
No idea but I think the parents are weird as hell constantly playing dress up with their daughter all the time.
Posted on 12/19/20 at 12:29 am to JustLivinTheDream
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It was some Puerto Rican guy
CONFESS
Posted on 12/19/20 at 12:32 am to East Coast Band
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Her family absolutely had something to do with it.
You'll never convince me otherwise.
Best guess is the brother hit her over the head, killing her, and the parents freaked out and concocted this BS kidnapping/ ransom story to deflect.
This. I think East Coast is 100% right
Posted on 12/19/20 at 12:34 am to WinnPtiger
Ransomnote VS Patsy's example
Posted on 12/19/20 at 12:37 am to pioneerbasketball
If you've been reading up on the Jonbenet case, you may have seen attorney Lee Hill's name come up. Very intriguing character. Originally from Monroe, half Choctaw Indian, graduated high school at 15 and went on to what is now ULM where he joined KA, also at 15. Joined the Navy and became an intelligence officer. May have also worked for the CIA although he's rather evasive about that. The Jonbenet case is only one of many high profile cases he's been involved in. Left the country and lived in Hong Kong for several years as a result of a weapons charge he says was a setup because he pissed off too many people. I heard he's back in the US now so it must have been resolved.
The guy has such an unusual background and has been involved in so much strange stuff I'm a little surprised he hasn't popped up on the Qanon radar.
I know him but haven't had contact with him for quite a long time. I wouldn't put it past him to lurk here. If you see a cryptic post by someone who isn't a regular, that may be him.
The guy has such an unusual background and has been involved in so much strange stuff I'm a little surprised he hasn't popped up on the Qanon radar.
I know him but haven't had contact with him for quite a long time. I wouldn't put it past him to lurk here. If you see a cryptic post by someone who isn't a regular, that may be him.
Posted on 12/19/20 at 12:38 am to East Coast Band
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This post was edited on 8/22/21 at 2:35 am
Posted on 12/19/20 at 12:46 am to pioneerbasketball
frick, thats a lot of shite.
Posted on 12/19/20 at 12:50 am to pioneerbasketball
Did you think we were going to sit down and real allllllll of those posts about a murder that is 24 years old?
Posted on 12/19/20 at 12:51 am to TomBuchanan
Early Mistakes
Beckner said first off the police officers should have shut down the crime scene immediately and taken statements from JonBenet's parents. Since the crime happened on Christmas Day, Beckner said there were fewer people available to get to the scene.
Beckner said first off the police officers should have shut down the crime scene immediately and taken statements from JonBenet's parents. Since the crime happened on Christmas Day, Beckner said there were fewer people available to get to the scene.
Posted on 12/19/20 at 12:52 am to Havoc
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frick, thats a lot of shite.
Sorry.
Posted on 12/19/20 at 12:53 am to Havoc
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frick, thats a lot of shite.
Yes - I only read a little
What people do to children - sometimes their own children - blows my mind
Posted on 12/19/20 at 1:45 am to JustLivinTheDream
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It was some Puerto Rican guy
bullshite
Posted on 12/19/20 at 1:58 am to pioneerbasketball
have you covered the Santa Claus theory yet?
Posted on 12/19/20 at 1:58 am to pioneerbasketball
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pioneerbasketball
Damn dude. A simple link or two would suffice. Chill bro
This post was edited on 12/19/20 at 2:19 am
Posted on 12/19/20 at 2:09 am to Rebel
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have you covered the Santa Claus theory yet?
No, I didn't want to post too much info.
Posted on 12/19/20 at 2:17 am to pioneerbasketball
Col. Mustard with a candlestick in the dining room...
Posted on 12/19/20 at 2:20 am to pioneerbasketball
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No, I didn't want to post too much info.
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