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re: Do you think we are living in the time just before very advanced tech changes everything?

Posted on 3/31/18 at 10:19 pm to
Posted by EA6B
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Posted on 3/31/18 at 10:19 pm to
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People at the turn of the 20th century(1900 did I say that right?) had more in common with people who lived 2000 years before them than they have with us. Traveling across the world was still nearly an impossible task. The horse was still the main mode of transportation as it had been for thousands of years and almost no one had electricity. Now, even the poorest people on the planet have smart phones that can communicate and get news from anywhere on earth at a moment’s notice. Anyone can hop on a plane and be anywhere on the planet within 24 hours. I can find almost any historical fact or piece of knowledge I want within seconds. Life expectancy has almost doubled. It’s amazing.


The biggest paradigm shift in technology occurred in the years following 1947, what happened at that time? Aliens crashed at Roswell!
Posted by wareaglepete
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Posted on 3/31/18 at 10:39 pm to
Go look up the Google AI experiments and chess. It is learning, not just being programmed. Closer than you think.
Posted by BeepNode
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Posted on 3/31/18 at 11:05 pm to
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possible to cheat death.


You mean delay it? Everyone alive today will die one day.
This post was edited on 3/31/18 at 11:06 pm
Posted by mofungoo
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 1:23 am to
There won't be any advanced technology because Al Gore says global warming will destroy the planet soon.

Posted by jscrims
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 5:53 am to
There was an article my boss was talking about the other day how AI will be as smart as humans in the next 10 years and in the next 20 years, they will be 10x smarter.

Essentially, they will become God as an all knowing creature. Think about the fact that a robot will literally have the entire internet in their memory and be able to reference any piece of that while having the knowledge on how to properly do anything without the fear of pain or death. That is very scary.

Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118271 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 5:55 am to
We could just forget to charge them.


Boom. They dead, baw.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 11:19 am to
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AI is electronic and will have no soul.


You’re biological and have no soul. There’s no such thing as a soul.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 12:29 pm to
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We are not even close to a real AI. The term AI is being used today is completely out of place. All of these "AI" devices are just hardware doing exactly what it was programmed to do. It takes input and solves, there is no deviation from the programming. Nothing is even close to thinking for itself, we will need a major breakthrough for that.

Plenty of AI are teaching themselves and learning by trial.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34329 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 12:40 pm to
Yes. AI is almost to the point of being game changing.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 12:44 pm to
We're living before, during, and after.
Posted by UltimaParadox
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 1:48 pm to
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Go look up the Google AI experiments and chess. It is learning, not just being programmed. Closer than you think.


The logic behind getting better at chess is completely different than an AI that can solve a brand new problem like people. The more times the software can input chess scenarios it can come up with more optimal solutions. While very useful for chess, it is a single problem solution.

Sure we can program computers to be better at specific tasks. We are not close to computers solving problems it's not familiar with.
This post was edited on 4/1/18 at 1:52 pm
Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 4:05 pm to
Absolutely. The way we view 400 years ago, we will be viewed similarly in 50 years.
Posted by KG5989
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 4:43 pm to
LINK

Read this. Super interesting.
Posted by DrunkerThanThou
Unfortunately Mississippi
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 5:19 pm to
They already came out with a Doritos taco, so far as I’m concerned golden age = achieved
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 5:29 pm to
This works on smaller scales too. The movie Back to the Future came out in 1985, and “the past” took place in 1955. In the movie, when Michael J. Fox went back to 1955, he was caught off-guard by the newness of TVs, the prices of soda, the lack of love for shrill electric guitar, and the variation in slang. It was a different world, yes—but if the movie were made today and the past took place in 1985, the movie could have had much more fun with much bigger differences. The character would be in a time before personal computers, internet, or cell phones—today’s Marty McFly, a teenager born in the late 90s, would be much more out of place in 1985 than the movie’s Marty McFly was in 1955.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
25350 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 6:48 pm to
I was promised a flying car by 1990, so no.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 6:55 pm to
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The character would be in a time before personal computers, internet, or cell phones—today’s Marty McFly, a teenager born in the late 90s, would be much more out of place in 1985 than the movie’s Marty McFly was in 1955.


By 1985 I had already had a Apple 2E, a Compaq PC, Commodore 64, and had built several IBM PC clones. Pretty much everyone I new that had the slightest interest in tech had a PC of some type, and workplace used was growing at a alarming rate.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34329 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 7:35 pm to
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The logic behind getting better at chess is completely different than an AI that can solve a brand new problem like people. The more times the software can input chess scenarios it can come up with more optimal solutions. While very useful for chess, it is a single problem solution.

Sure we can program computers to be better at specific tasks. We are not close to computers solving problems it's not familiar with.


Of course not, that is one of the fundamental problems with AI, machine learning, and computing more generally. You have to give the computer some information to start off with. That has always been true and will continue to be true.

Back in 1996-97, Kasparov vs. Deep Blue was a good matchup. Humans could still win by (a) getting the computer off its opening book sooner than it was designed to do and (b) focusing on long-term strategy over short-term tactics.

But today's computers (e.g., Komodo) are capable of long-term positional strategy, and they can "think for themselves" almost from move 1. Thus, computers are now providing chess insights that humans never thought of. In other words, the computers are now teaching us about chess, rather than vice-versa.
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