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re: Do you think human giants ever roamed this earth?

Posted on 12/30/24 at 6:34 pm to
Posted by Mushroom1968
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 6:34 pm to
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?or do you believe we actually evolved from apes lol?


We came from God. I just said watching atheists get riled up is entertaining. Even better in person, their faces get extremely red
Posted by Rust Cohle
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 6:36 pm to
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I think it was 11/12 of Jesus disciples were martyred

Try 2/12

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Who’s arguing that they were lying? I’m sure they believed it to be true. But we are only speculating that the others died for their beliefs.

But how is that convincing? People believe all kinds of crazy things, the Earth is flat, women can have a Penis, that if they kill themselves in a terrorist attack, they’ll get 40 virgins in heaven.
This post was edited on 12/30/24 at 6:47 pm
Posted by rattlebucket
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 7:13 pm to
Wait you are using the Bible as your source of accuracy? If you dont believe it I dont think you can use that as a viable source my friend.

Regardless we know James was killed by Herod, Stephen stoned, Peter and Andrew crucified and other writings recorded the other 7/8 martyred.

Keep after in your search

This post was edited on 12/30/24 at 7:13 pm
Posted by Howyouluhdat
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 7:19 pm to
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We came from God. I just said watching atheists get riled up is entertaining. Even better in person, their faces get extremely red



That wasn’t meant for you. I agree with you. Your post was just the one I clicked on sorry.
Posted by TriStateAreaFootball
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 7:35 pm to
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Do you think human giants ever roamed this earth?

As a Christian, I would simply answer with Genesis 6:4.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 7:35 pm to
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I’ll start with the first 11. I think it was 11/12 of Jesus disciples were martyred. The rest are in other writings you can research.

First of all, the direct evidence supporting this is flimsy.

Second, people continue to do insane things for religious and political reasons, even with all the knowledge of modern times. And countless people have been willing to die for a cause of some kind throughout history.

A dozen people supposedly being willing to die over a messiah figure 2,000 years ago is hardly anything noteworthy, if it ever happened in the first place - which is questionable.

In this world, lies are told and mistakes are made millions of times a day. But there has never been one irrefutable piece of evidence supporting anything supernatural.

In conversations about this I like to use an analogy:

Let’s say you’re at a body shop, and you end talking to a guy sitting next to you in the waiting room. You ask him what kind of work is being done on his vehicle. He says he is having repair work done because he hit a deer. You think nothing of it because that is a common thing in the southeast. He might have been lying - maybe he got drunk and rear ended someone and just didn’t want to tell you - but there’s no obvious reason to doubt his story about the deer. You would likely take him at his word.

But what if he told you he hit a kangaroo? Kangaroos do not live in North America outside of zoos. This is an extremely bizarre story you’ve being told, and it is unlikely that you would believe him without further evidence. You would probably need at least pictures and a news article on the internet about a kangaroo escaping a local zoo to even start to take him seriously.

I am more inclined to accept something at face value if the claim is common, even though it-possibly could be wrong. But if you’re telling me something outrageous, I need more evidence.

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Who allows themselves to be killed over a lie? Brutal deaths. Not just drink some koolaid and go to sleep.

Thousands of people have committed self-immolation - and it doesn’t get much worse than burning to death - for various reasons in much more civilized times.

It just doesn’t “impress” me for anyone to be a martyr over a religious figure, especially millennia ago.

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Look up writings of C.S Lewis, Simon Greenleaf and others. People way smarter than me who sought to prove it all bunk only coming to the conclusion they were wrong.

I find it more relevant to look at the science side of things. Things like mankind supposedly inheriting a world free of death and suffering - which couldn’t be in more direct conflict with modern science and completely undermines the need to Jesus and redemption in the first place - and Noah’s Ark are absurd.
Posted by Mushroom1968
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2023
6249 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 7:43 pm to
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First of all, the direct evidence supporting this is flimsy. Second, people continue to do insane things for religious and political reasons, even with all the knowledge of modern times. And countless people have been willing to die for a cause of some kind throughout history. A dozen people supposedly being willing to die over a messiah figure 2,000 years ago is hardly anything noteworthy, if it ever happened in the first place - which is questionable. In this world, lies are told and mistakes are made millions of times a day. But there has never been one irrefutable piece of evidence supporting anything supernatural. In conversations about this I like to use an analogy: Let’s say you’re at a body shop, and you end talking to a guy sitting next to you in the waiting room. You ask him what kind of work is being done on his vehicle. He says he is having repair work done because he hit a deer. You think nothing of it because that is a common thing in the southeast. He might have been lying - maybe he got drunk and rear ended someone and just didn’t want to tell you - but there’s no obvious reason to doubt his story about the deer. You would likely take him at his word. But what if he told you he hit a kangaroo? Kangaroos do not live in North America outside of zoos. This is an extremely bizarre story you’ve being told, and it is unlikely that you would believe him without further evidence. You would probably need at least pictures and a news article on the internet about a kangaroo escaping a local zoo to even start to take him seriously. I am more inclined to accept something at face value if the claim is common, even though it-possibly could be wrong. But if you’re telling me something outrageous, I need more evidence. quote: Who allows themselves to be killed over a lie? Brutal deaths. Not just drink some koolaid and go to sleep. Thousands of people have committed self-immolation - and it doesn’t get much worse than burning to death - for various reasons in much more civilized times. It just doesn’t “impress” me for anyone to be a martyr over a religious figure, especially millennia ago. quote: Look up writings of C.S Lewis, Simon Greenleaf and others. People way smarter than me who sought to prove it all bunk only coming to the conclusion they were wrong. I find it more relevant to look at the science side of things. Things like mankind supposedly inheriting a world free of death and suffering - which couldn’t be in more direct conflict with modern science and completely undermines the need to Jesus and redemption in the first place - and Noah’s Ark are


That’s a lot of words to not even say anything relevant
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79907 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 8:12 pm to
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That’s a lot of words to not even say anything relevant
Whether you agree with him or not, what he posted was relevant.
Posted by Mushroom1968
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2023
6249 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 8:14 pm to
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Whether you agree with him or not, what he posted was relevant.


If he was trying to tell a funny joke then sure. Maybe that was his angle
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79907 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 8:15 pm to
No. He was arguing his side.
Posted by FAT SEXY
California
Member since Jun 2020
2116 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 8:15 pm to
How big of a pussy was Goliath. Full armor and you get killed by a midget with a slingshot. Pathetic
Posted by Mushroom1968
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2023
6249 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 8:15 pm to
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No. He was arguing his side.


People usually post relevant stuff when they argue their side though.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79907 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 8:19 pm to
Then you're just avoiding his argument.
Posted by Mushroom1968
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2023
6249 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 8:21 pm to
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Then you're just avoiding his argument.


Oh definitely not that. Just waiting on him to make good points.

Eta: I wasted years of my life arguing about this,.I don’t take it that seriously anymore, it’s entertaining to watch now, especially online. I’m just enjoying it. In real life I’m willing to talk, have converted quite a few
This post was edited on 12/30/24 at 8:24 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79907 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 8:22 pm to
He did. You're simply ignoring it, or you're dim.
Posted by Mushroom1968
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2023
6249 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 8:24 pm to
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He did. You're simply ignoring it, or you're dim


Nah, he just made a long uninspiring post that meant nothing. Sorry bro
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79907 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 8:25 pm to
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Nah, he just made a long uninspiring post that meant nothing


You're psychologically defending against it. I get it.
Posted by PurpleSingularity
Member since Dec 2017
2834 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 8:27 pm to
I can’t believe you guys are still going at it….

Growth Mindset vs Static Mindset

It is extremely uncomfortable for a static individual to open his or her mind to growth and infinity…leave them alone and let them be happy
Posted by Mushroom1968
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2023
6249 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 8:27 pm to
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You're psychologically defending against it. I get it.


I don’t think there is much you actually get.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79907 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 8:31 pm to
Just dismiss what others say when you don't like it.
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