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re: Do you know anyone who has a high paying job but hate what they do?
Posted on 2/20/22 at 10:16 am to PeteRose
Posted on 2/20/22 at 10:16 am to PeteRose
As others have said, most plant guys. They get paid so well but it’s like being in prison. Rule after rule after rule and all the cocksucking rats trying to throw others under the bus.
Posted on 2/20/22 at 10:17 am to Odysseus32
Granted. I wasn't trying to imply that stress was always a good thing.
I'm just over people avoiding it at all costs. Not becuase I don't want them to be happy, but because I don't think stress automatically means you could be happier without it. In fact I think stress can be extremely fulfilling if taken and handled correctly.
Eta
I also think people find stress regardless. Or they have unreal expectations on how much stress they can deal with while also having fulfillment. Like the person who decides they love taking pictures and so starts a photography business and then is surprised to find there is stress in working for yourself. Some people choose to be miserable. And I greatly respect the ones that understand that and do things that might sound terrible to most of us, but also something that we all benefit from. I guarantee there are things that we all need but don't want to do. I don't think society benefits if we constantly drive people to do something they absolutely love, only for the benefit of no stress to themselves.
We don't need 350 million photographers or youtbers in this country.
I'm just over people avoiding it at all costs. Not becuase I don't want them to be happy, but because I don't think stress automatically means you could be happier without it. In fact I think stress can be extremely fulfilling if taken and handled correctly.
Eta
I also think people find stress regardless. Or they have unreal expectations on how much stress they can deal with while also having fulfillment. Like the person who decides they love taking pictures and so starts a photography business and then is surprised to find there is stress in working for yourself. Some people choose to be miserable. And I greatly respect the ones that understand that and do things that might sound terrible to most of us, but also something that we all benefit from. I guarantee there are things that we all need but don't want to do. I don't think society benefits if we constantly drive people to do something they absolutely love, only for the benefit of no stress to themselves.
We don't need 350 million photographers or youtbers in this country.
This post was edited on 2/20/22 at 10:25 am
Posted on 2/20/22 at 10:31 am to PeteRose
Every person I know with a high paying job hates their job.
Posted on 2/20/22 at 10:32 am to PeteRose
Every retail pharmacist you’ve ever met. I’d change careers before I went back to that shite.
Posted on 2/20/22 at 10:35 am to PeteRose
Hypocrisy warning (me)!
Me now: Time is the most precious resource we have. Cannot get more of it. Stuff, on the other hand...pernt: time! Therefore, I do not understand how anyone would trade their short time on Earth being miserable in what takes up most o their life.
Me 2012-15, 2005-09, and parts of 2003-04 (hehehehe): I was doing exactly this. $ > time.
Money is a tricky mofo. Need it to a point. After that point, it actually becomes a dissatisfier, meaning more of it makes you want more of it (and may tend to trade precious time for it).
Find that job that lines up with your DNA and economic opportunity (and $ will follow), not the other way around! ...my fresh view on this.
Me now: Time is the most precious resource we have. Cannot get more of it. Stuff, on the other hand...pernt: time! Therefore, I do not understand how anyone would trade their short time on Earth being miserable in what takes up most o their life.
Me 2012-15, 2005-09, and parts of 2003-04 (hehehehe): I was doing exactly this. $ > time.
Money is a tricky mofo. Need it to a point. After that point, it actually becomes a dissatisfier, meaning more of it makes you want more of it (and may tend to trade precious time for it).
Find that job that lines up with your DNA and economic opportunity (and $ will follow), not the other way around! ...my fresh view on this.
Posted on 2/20/22 at 10:48 am to GRTiger
quote:
We don't need 350 million photographers or youtbers in this country.
My response will be anecdotal, so keep that in mind. I am sure there are many people out there who want to avoid stress at all costs. I've seen some of them. But I would have been someone you lumped into that cateogry previously.
I was quitting jobs any time they became stressful. I worked mostly manual labor jobs, with a lot of people I didn't click with, in (mostly) unpleasant environments. I would last on average about 3 months at these jobs because I would look around and think "frick this" because it was a shitty job. As you might imagine I was ridiculed by my family, those around me. I was irresponsible, "no-count", and people would constantly try to explain to me why life wasn't the way I thought it should be. And I actually started to believe them.
Then my then-girlfriend (now wife) and I got married and moved to Boise. And I kept working those same jobs, except this time when I quit I didn't have people shitting on me for quitting. There was no judgement, largely because my wife supported me and there were no critical voices. Without the critical voices telling me that I need to grow up, you know what I did? I grew up. I went back to school and got a degree. And I was scared that when I finished I'd get a job and feel stressed out all over again and quit, like I've done every time in the past. Because I've been told that I can't handle stress.
So I got a job as an accountant working from home, not very high pay, but a hell of a lot more than I'd make in a warehouse throwing trucks. When I got there, my supervisor allowed me to work and trusted me to do my job. I didn't feel any stress despite having a lot of work to do that challenged me. Despite having deadlines and things that needed to get done, I felt no stress at all. And then I realized that there was nothing inherently wrong with me, that I was not just a lazy entitled piece of shite. What I wanted was to be allowed to do my job without a supervisor coming back to check on things every hour because they don't trust their employees. I wanted to be able to be trusted and left alone.
And yes, this applies specifically to me. I don't at all think that there aren't lazy entitled people out there. But I was told (and believed) that I was one my entire adult life because I didn't think the stress of working in a hot warehouse cutting pipe for a-hole contractors was worth it. So I just wonder how many of the people that try to make it being a youtuber or a guitar player or go to Hollywood or dream of being a writer aren't really just searching for a normal job where they aren't being shite on.
Posted on 2/20/22 at 10:54 am to PeteRose
I know quite s few including s radiologist, and a dentist.
Posted on 2/20/22 at 10:55 am to PeteRose
I did pretty well when I hung my shingle, but absolutely none of what I practiced was enjoyable at all. Between that, and the concrete slowly creeping on my home, I said frick it and moved out here to bartend at a super high-end place. I make about 20% less, and being behind the mahogany has its own stressors, but I wouldn't trade living here for anything. At this point, the JD is just an interesting part of conversation.
Posted on 2/20/22 at 10:57 am to HempHead
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I make about 20% less
I went back to a previous job in 2021, its about 20% less..maybe a little more. I'm thrilled. Life is so much better when your job isn't miserable..
This post was edited on 2/20/22 at 10:58 am
Posted on 2/20/22 at 11:04 am to RogerTheShrubber
My entire point is the perception of misery can change without changing anything else. I don't think we disagree, I just think we're talking about it differently.
Posted on 2/20/22 at 11:06 am to Odysseus32
I make a nice yearly six-figure income, with great perks. Until Covid, I loved it. Now, I do it only for the income and the occasional project that is extremely cool, classified or developed to be used in classified or secret programs.
But I've discovered that I really enjoy working on cars for performance and fun, and supporting my son's interest in racing. I'm thinking about leaving the comfort of my employer, and then going into private consulting, with my current employer being my first customer. This would let me work when I want, and then invest and build up a performance garage as a side business that I can give to my son. He's interning at a performance garage starting this summer, taking auto shop next year and is planning to get a degree in automotive engineering from University of Michigan. This is definitely a more interesting and fun activity than the current work that I do.
But I've discovered that I really enjoy working on cars for performance and fun, and supporting my son's interest in racing. I'm thinking about leaving the comfort of my employer, and then going into private consulting, with my current employer being my first customer. This would let me work when I want, and then invest and build up a performance garage as a side business that I can give to my son. He's interning at a performance garage starting this summer, taking auto shop next year and is planning to get a degree in automotive engineering from University of Michigan. This is definitely a more interesting and fun activity than the current work that I do.
Posted on 2/20/22 at 11:11 am to GRTiger
quote:Dudes selling cameras and editing software might disagree with you, though.
We don't need 350 million photographers or youtbers in this country.
Posted on 2/20/22 at 11:13 am to HubbaBubba
We'd have to have a lot of miserable camera salesman and software editors to sustain it, though.
Posted on 2/20/22 at 11:14 am to PeteRose
To earn a high salary, you have to generate that value somehow.
Often, long hours, difficult work, and high stress are involved.
Often, long hours, difficult work, and high stress are involved.
Posted on 2/20/22 at 11:18 am to GRTiger
It all depends on where the stress is coming from. I was good at my job and I actually loved that part of it. What I hated was being blamed for every little thing that was not my fault and having coworkers stabbing me in the back. This was happening during the crash and it was a cut throat world out there. I was tired of playing games and having to constantly defend myself.
Now I am a millwright, we are given a job to do, we go do it and nothing is said to us as long as we do our job. It's not perfect but atleast I don't have to worry about things that are not in my hands to control. I know I'll have a job until I get ready to retire.
Now I am a millwright, we are given a job to do, we go do it and nothing is said to us as long as we do our job. It's not perfect but atleast I don't have to worry about things that are not in my hands to control. I know I'll have a job until I get ready to retire.
Posted on 2/20/22 at 12:54 pm to PeteRose
I’d argue that the large majority of folks find enjoyment in at least a few aspects of their job. The problems come in when minor issues stack up over time and become large issues or large issues present themselves and are never addressed.
I know a ton of folks in sales and I’m in sales as well. The pressure to sell in high paying jobs is incredible and honestly I’ve never understood it. You can’t FORCE someone to buy a product/service yet we feel constant pressure from management and ourselves to sell more and barely take time to celebrate sales that are won. On top of it all, clients expectations are usually borderline unrealistic. They want your product or service almost instantly and at the absolute cheapest price point imaginable. With Amazon and other businesses operating in this “now” world effectively it’s caused consumers to apply that mindset to most of their interactions in the same manner where it appears unfathomable to people that they will need to wait for something or pay a premium when something is in high demand.
So this constant pressure we apply internally to be better, the pressure from management and pressure from clients can be the “minor issues” that stack up and ultimately make the job something you hate.
I know a ton of folks in sales and I’m in sales as well. The pressure to sell in high paying jobs is incredible and honestly I’ve never understood it. You can’t FORCE someone to buy a product/service yet we feel constant pressure from management and ourselves to sell more and barely take time to celebrate sales that are won. On top of it all, clients expectations are usually borderline unrealistic. They want your product or service almost instantly and at the absolute cheapest price point imaginable. With Amazon and other businesses operating in this “now” world effectively it’s caused consumers to apply that mindset to most of their interactions in the same manner where it appears unfathomable to people that they will need to wait for something or pay a premium when something is in high demand.
So this constant pressure we apply internally to be better, the pressure from management and pressure from clients can be the “minor issues” that stack up and ultimately make the job something you hate.
Posted on 2/20/22 at 1:32 pm to PeteRose
It was not so much the job but rather the marriage that soured him...a change of scenery/location would help him.
Posted on 2/20/22 at 1:38 pm to PeteRose
Everyone in investment banking/public accounting.
But especially public accounting
But especially public accounting
Posted on 2/20/22 at 1:38 pm to PeteRose
Me. I have been a travel nurse for over 20 years and used to love it. We are finally making good money but the stress of working long hours, short-staffed with crazy responsibilities has me on edge. Expectations are unrealistic and I am ready to retire. I'm 62 and wanted to go til 65 but not sure if it worth it.
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