- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Do you have a friend that changes jobs…constantly? (Or maybe it’s you?)
Posted on 12/26/21 at 9:47 pm to concrete_tiger
Posted on 12/26/21 at 9:47 pm to concrete_tiger
“To improve is to change, to perfect is to change often” ~ Winston Churchill
0
Posted on 12/26/21 at 9:48 pm to concrete_tiger
I work in tech sales. It's pretty common for people to have three jobs in four years. Though at some point there is an expectation to put in a three to four year run at one place before going on another stretch of bouncing.
With the constant recruitment and always escalating salaries, tech salespeople are incentivized to job hop a bit.
With the constant recruitment and always escalating salaries, tech salespeople are incentivized to job hop a bit.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 9:52 pm to concrete_tiger
I completely understand employers wanting loyalty but that has to be reciprocated. I’m one of those people who has gone through job after job since college (mid 30’s) but with the exception of two, they were all in the same industry. You can’t sit around waiting for your boss to notice your worth if he/she hasn’t yet after a year or two. At that point you are either doing a shitty job or are working for a shitty employer. This is 2021 and there are a shite ton of employers out there willing to actually pay their employees and treat them very well. You either work for someone you bitch and complain about OR you get up off your complacent arse and find one that you brag about.
My current employer pays me triple (or more) than any other employer ever has for LESS work, provides benefits that blow many others away, and actually wants me to keep working for them. I am happier there than any other place I’ve landed in the past and I will be there until the day I retire.
You can’t be loyal to a fault these days. Either you are and lose or your employer is and you win. Find an employer that is loyal to you.
My current employer pays me triple (or more) than any other employer ever has for LESS work, provides benefits that blow many others away, and actually wants me to keep working for them. I am happier there than any other place I’ve landed in the past and I will be there until the day I retire.
You can’t be loyal to a fault these days. Either you are and lose or your employer is and you win. Find an employer that is loyal to you.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 9:52 pm to concrete_tiger
I completely understand employers wanting loyalty but that has to be reciprocated. I’m one of those people who has gone through job after job since college (mid 30’s) but with the exception of two, they were all in the same industry. You can’t sit around waiting for your boss to notice your worth if he/she hasn’t yet after a year or two. At that point you are either doing a shitty job or are working for a shitty employer. This is 2021 and there are a shite ton of employers out there willing to actually pay their employees and treat them very well. You either work for someone you bitch and complain about OR you get up off your complacent arse and find one that you brag about.
My current employer pays me triple (or more) than any other employer ever has for LESS work, provides benefits that blow many others away, and actually wants me to keep working for them. I am happier there than any other place I’ve landed in the past and I will be there until the day I retire.
You can’t be loyal to a fault these days. Either you are and lose or your employer is and you win. Find an employer that is loyal to you.
My current employer pays me triple (or more) than any other employer ever has for LESS work, provides benefits that blow many others away, and actually wants me to keep working for them. I am happier there than any other place I’ve landed in the past and I will be there until the day I retire.
You can’t be loyal to a fault these days. Either you are and lose or your employer is and you win. Find an employer that is loyal to you.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 9:52 pm to concrete_tiger
I completely understand employers wanting loyalty but that has to be reciprocated. I’m one of those people who has gone through job after job since college (mid 30’s) but with the exception of two, they were all in the same industry. You can’t sit around waiting for your boss to notice your worth if he/she hasn’t yet after a year or two. At that point you are either doing a shitty job or are working for a shitty employer. This is 2021 and there are a shite ton of employers out there willing to actually pay their employees and treat them very well. You either work for someone you bitch and complain about OR you get up off your complacent arse and find one that you brag about.
My current employer pays me triple (or more) than any other employer ever has for LESS work, provides benefits that blow many others away, and actually wants me to keep working for them. I am happier there than any other place I’ve landed in the past and I will be there until the day I retire.
You can’t be loyal to a fault these days. Either you are and lose or your employer is and you win. Find an employer that is loyal to you.
My current employer pays me triple (or more) than any other employer ever has for LESS work, provides benefits that blow many others away, and actually wants me to keep working for them. I am happier there than any other place I’ve landed in the past and I will be there until the day I retire.
You can’t be loyal to a fault these days. Either you are and lose or your employer is and you win. Find an employer that is loyal to you.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 9:53 pm to TDsngumbo
I see I’ve achieved the rare accidental triple post. 
Posted on 12/26/21 at 9:58 pm to Darth_Vader
I love seeing the progression with the company and sticking it out with one employer. I hope you reap the max retirement benefits and compensation associated with the loytalty you provided. 
Posted on 12/26/21 at 10:01 pm to concrete_tiger
I try to not do this personally, at least not to the extent the OP describes. However, if someone is content with their current job, but thinks they can do better, I understand the mindset of never settling and always being on the lookout for the next opportunity. And if you're a good enough candidate, you'll get a lot of offers.
Depending on the field, it can often be easier to move up the ladder by job hopping than staying put. A lot of times people don't get promoted from within in certain industries.
Depending on the field, it can often be easier to move up the ladder by job hopping than staying put. A lot of times people don't get promoted from within in certain industries.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 10:01 pm to Nephropidae
quote:
I love seeing the progression with the company and sticking it out with one employer. I hope you reap the max retirement benefits and compensation associated with the loytalty you provided
I'm not who you replied to but I think I make more with my employer of a decade than I could get on the open market where I live. And I have 32 days of vacation and a decently long leash due to employment history. I wouldn't trade any of that for 10k more in salary but to each their own.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 10:06 pm to DiamondDog
quote:
So I've held 6 jobs in 13 years. My dad considered me a job hopper. Changing jobs has helped me increase my salary 3.7X based on my starting salary out of college. There is no way I'd be where I am now if not for moving around. I don't judge my generation for moving every 2-3 years.
This. 6 in 12 years. At 3.5 times my starting salary. Made a ton of friends and never burn a bridge. Been treated well and treated like a number too. Loyalty is real for some but not for any publicly traded company, period.
Life is short, go with your gut, work hard and things will work out.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 10:10 pm to concrete_tiger
There are some people getting like $20k sign on bonuses, but long term employees get zero retention incentive. For a lot of people it's a bitter pill to swallow when new people are making $10-15/hr more and getting a big bonus.
I can't blame anyone for job hopping in the current environment.
I can't blame anyone for job hopping in the current environment.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 10:12 pm to fallguy_1978
Jobs that I liked, I was well paid and challenged by:
1 - 3 years. Company merger. Job disappeared.
2 - another for 3 years. Another merger. Another job disappeared.
3 - 4 years - let go for earning too much, being successful and looking too good. I was a challenge for the worthless VP while the company itself was cost cutting because of his inept leadership, I was kicking arse, closing deals and making too much. The guys that came behind me all quit within a year and the VP guy got arrested and convicted to 7 years in prison for child molestation of his own daughter.
4 - 5 years - good job, interesting technology. Quit to take a better paying job.
5 - current job, now 7 years and I have some amazing accomplishments and an international sales engineering role working in defense contracting, scientific study and space exploration. Will likely retire from here.
Jobs that I hated, left after less than two years, and that highly underpaid me:
Job 1 - an underfunded venture capital project. 6 months.
Job 2 - great job, came with 65,000 shares of stock options, then the CFO and CEO were both indicted by the FTC for cooking the books. 3 months.
Job 3 - I closed an $8 million sale within 3 months of joining the company, then got told in a company conference call, “that's not the kind of business we want. We prefer you to go out and sell lots of small opportunities instead of large projects." - I quit two days later.
A whole smattering of wasted effort in other jobs that were neither well paying or professionally challenging.
1 - 3 years. Company merger. Job disappeared.
2 - another for 3 years. Another merger. Another job disappeared.
3 - 4 years - let go for earning too much, being successful and looking too good. I was a challenge for the worthless VP while the company itself was cost cutting because of his inept leadership, I was kicking arse, closing deals and making too much. The guys that came behind me all quit within a year and the VP guy got arrested and convicted to 7 years in prison for child molestation of his own daughter.
4 - 5 years - good job, interesting technology. Quit to take a better paying job.
5 - current job, now 7 years and I have some amazing accomplishments and an international sales engineering role working in defense contracting, scientific study and space exploration. Will likely retire from here.
Jobs that I hated, left after less than two years, and that highly underpaid me:
Job 1 - an underfunded venture capital project. 6 months.
Job 2 - great job, came with 65,000 shares of stock options, then the CFO and CEO were both indicted by the FTC for cooking the books. 3 months.
Job 3 - I closed an $8 million sale within 3 months of joining the company, then got told in a company conference call, “that's not the kind of business we want. We prefer you to go out and sell lots of small opportunities instead of large projects." - I quit two days later.
A whole smattering of wasted effort in other jobs that were neither well paying or professionally challenging.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 10:28 pm to HubbaBubba
Yeah there is reason for some people and I'm good with that. But I think that 95% of candidates that have a new job every few years are questionable at best.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 10:47 pm to fallguy_1978
Maybe it’s just me but when I’m scanning resumes, years per job greatly outweighs jobs per year.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 10:53 pm to fallguy_1978
quote:
But I think that 95% of candidates that have a new job every few years are questionable at best.
That's total bullshite
Posted on 12/26/21 at 10:56 pm to Bullfrog
I can assure the board this person isn’t job hopping chasing better pay or opportunity. She and her family have struggled mightily. It is definitely a “it’s not my fault, it’s the company’s fault” scenario.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 11:03 pm to concrete_tiger
(no message)
This post was edited on 2/9/22 at 3:05 am
Posted on 12/26/21 at 11:04 pm to Darth_Vader
Why would anyone downvote your journey?? You’ve paid your dues and waited your turn I applaud that. I too have had two “official” jobs since I was 18. US Navy and current employer. I paid my dues rose through the ranks and now I’m set to retire at age 52-54(my choice) a 3/4 millionaire with a lifetime pension and health insurance that rolls to my wife when I die. Kids these days want what you and I have when they graduate college with a arts degree. Then call us names and abusers of the system when they realize they’ll have to be patient and work for it. It’s hilarious to the point it’s sad.
This post was edited on 12/26/21 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 12/27/21 at 12:30 am to fallguy_1978
quote:
Yeah there is reason for some people and I'm good with that. But I think that 95% of candidates that have a new job every few years are questionable at best.
Not all, but the vast majority of the OT is involved in some kind of sales capacity. I interview many candidates with contracting history. Many people enjoy contract work because they have a spouse that has decent health care coverage and enjoy contingency work. As a contractor, you typically have a higher hourly rate as opposed to a salary with benefits, which works for some in the tech industry. The issue with this is that it takes well over a year to mesh with a technical team where many teams have worked together for many years where attrition is rare, however as projects grow, so does your headcount requirements for your team from an HR perspective. I’m hesitant to move forward with people who job hop with five jobs (i.e. contract work, or short term employment) in one year because of the collaborative nature, matrix environment of the team work involved at my company, which takes years to cultivate.
Posted on 12/27/21 at 2:21 am to concrete_tiger
quote:
I worked with a girl
PIIHB
Page 3 of 6
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News