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re: Do you find it hard to reason with staunch religious people?
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:34 am to RoosterCogburn585
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:34 am to RoosterCogburn585
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It's not so much a debate about religion, it's just their worldview. There is no gray area with them. It's 0 or 100, nothing in between.
Well if you believe in God and believe he sent you his word, there is no gray area.
That’s a consistent worldview.
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Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:36 am to Prosecuted Collins
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Christians embracing Nazism as a political identity tells me all I need to know about modern day religion.
Which aspects of Nazism do you see Christians embracing? Be specific please.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:37 am to RoosterCogburn585
Arguing with someone about what happened thousands of years before I was born isn’t high on my list of things to do
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:45 am to yellowfin
As a wise old man once told me, all organized religion has shortcomings and none completely follow “what Jesus Christ would do” and that man is corrupted easily.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:49 am to FreeState
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and none completely follow “what Jesus Christ would do” and that man is corrupted easily.
That’s literally the entire basis of Christianity. You can’t even come close to Jesus so you need a savior.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:49 am to RoosterCogburn585
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Do you find it hard to reason with staunch religious people?
Nearly all religious people adopt the system of their culture and/or heritage. It can be difficult to discuss topics with someone who doesn’t hold their position for logical reasons.
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I find it harder to reason with relativists. At least religious people have firm grounding in something and believe there's a "right" to discover/reason through.
This can also be dangerous.
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People who throw up their hands and say, "gee, no one can really know what's true" are the worst type. They are also spineless.
Well, why are there so many conflicting religions (and branches within those religions) if we can know all these truths?
Where’s the virtue in saying something is “true” when you have no better claim to it than anyone in opposition?
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I feel like believing something like that without question would make life so much easier.
That’s why religion is so cultural. It’s easier to just roll with what mom, dad, and the local priest say than to put forth effort and perhaps confront difficult realizations.
This post was edited on 10/29/25 at 8:51 am
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:51 am to RoosterCogburn585
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staunch religious people?
No such thing. There are true religious people, and there are those like you who only follow rules that fit their life. You can't be half pregnant...do better
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:53 am to ChatGPT of LA
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There are true religious people, and there are those like you who only follow rules that fit their life.
They’re one and the same.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:54 am to RoosterCogburn585
In my personal experience, discussions on religion are tough because they are really discussions about accountability.
With the atheists that I’ve dealt with they usually have a cornerstone moment of perceived injustice of how a change in their life occurred. God didn’t intervene and fix it for them, therefore he doesn’t exist.
No a solid logical premise but regardless of denomination of religion it’s always a different culture’s handling of accountability.
With the atheists that I’ve dealt with they usually have a cornerstone moment of perceived injustice of how a change in their life occurred. God didn’t intervene and fix it for them, therefore he doesn’t exist.
No a solid logical premise but regardless of denomination of religion it’s always a different culture’s handling of accountability.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:57 am to RoosterCogburn585
Generally the staunchly religious people I know are very friendly. But it does feel like I'll never be good enough to avoid judgement, and one of them even asked me if I have any personal/ethical dilemmas over how my wife and I earn money since our employers don't always align with common Judeo-Christian values.
I resist the urge to ask them if they know the political stances and decision-making process at every company they invest in via their 401k's index funds because my wife said I need more nerdy friends locally. But I'm very unlikely to share a beer with the guy that asked that one.
I resist the urge to ask them if they know the political stances and decision-making process at every company they invest in via their 401k's index funds because my wife said I need more nerdy friends locally. But I'm very unlikely to share a beer with the guy that asked that one.
This post was edited on 10/29/25 at 8:58 am
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:57 am to RoosterCogburn585
Well, I can see your problem plain as day. You find it hard to reason with someone who doesn’t agree with you. Try minding your own business rather than trying to convince someone that you are right and they are not. It’s so easy a 6000 year old cave man can do it.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:58 am to RoosterCogburn585
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RoosterCogburn585
Can you give us particular example?
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:59 am to LSUballs
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In your mind these people are everywhere. In reality, you've never met one.
If you are focused on my figurative use of snake handlers, you very much missed the target.
I've met Christians who think other Christians are devil worshipers. That's where the goofy catch all comes in.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:59 am to RoosterCogburn585
I am staunchly religious and have a degree in history. I find that the Bible and history are usually in accordance.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 9:12 am to GRTiger
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I've met Christians who think other Christians are devil worshipers. That's where the goofy catch all comes in
And I’ve seen non christians who think they are a cat. Just because a group has a lunatic fringe doesn’t mean the group is a bunch of lunatics
Posted on 10/29/25 at 9:13 am to RoosterCogburn585
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Do you find it hard to reason with staunch religious people?
Posted on 10/29/25 at 9:13 am to RoosterCogburn585
Then don’t. Don’t waste your time.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 9:14 am to MikeAV8s
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And I’ve seen non christians who think they are a cat. Just because a group has a lunatic fringe doesn’t mean the group is a bunch of lunatics
Yea man, I get that. The thread is asking about our experience with staunchly religious people. I gave mine. Does it upset you or something?
Posted on 10/29/25 at 9:18 am to Hester Carries
All you need to do is check out the thread with the loser in Nazi uni. Your fellow “god fearing Christian’s” love that shite.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 9:24 am to LRB1967
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I am staunchly religious and have a degree in history. I find that the Bible and history are usually in accordance.
I couldn’t disagree more.
1. I believe the concept of Original Sin (with a literal Adam and Eve) is essential to the integrity of the Bible and Man’s need for redemption through Jesus. If Man didn’t bring death into the world through sin, then its existence is not our fault.
Geological evidence indicates that death existed for hundreds of millions of years before humans appeared. Our first human ancestors were born into a brutal world through no fault of their own. I think this is inconsistent with the Bible.
2. The Bible details a global flood that destroyed virtually all life on Earth some 5,000 years ago. This is in direct conflict with all related sciences.
We can debate all day about what did or didn’t happen in primitive civilizations millennia ago. Jesus might have performed miracles, and I might have talked to the ghost of Abraham Lincoln last night. No one can prove or disprove any of it. But where the Bible meets hard science, it has problems.
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