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do you agree with these quotes re: genetics?
Posted on 2/16/18 at 5:16 pm
Posted on 2/16/18 at 5:16 pm
if you really want to understand what he's getting at, watch the video in the link.
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Donald Trump has been accused of believing in the “racehorse theory” of genetics, which claims some people are genetically superior to others.
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He said: “The family subscribes to a racehorse theory of human development.
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The PBS documentary featured clips of Mr Trump on the campaign trial claiming that he “believes in the gene thing” and saying he had a “very high aptitude”.
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He said: “Well I think I was born with the drive for success because I have a certain gene.
“I'm a gene believer... Hey, when you connect two race horses, you usually end up with a fast horse.
“I had a good gene pool from the standpoint of that, so I was pretty much driven.”
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 5:24 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 5:25 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:this shouldn’t be called a theory. It’s a fact
which claims some people are genetically superior to others
Posted on 2/16/18 at 5:26 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Genes, aka science, requires belief now?
Posted on 2/16/18 at 5:26 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Of course some people have superior genetics. I don't see how that's controversial
Posted on 2/16/18 at 5:28 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
While I am very, very glad Trump defeated Hillary Clinton, he was born on third base but thinks he hit a triple.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 5:29 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
I believe in the gene thing.
I don't know if genetics give one person more drive over another though. I think a lot of that is learned.
I don't know if genetics give one person more drive over another though. I think a lot of that is learned.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 5:29 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
This is only “news” because Trump said it. You’d have to be a blind fool to not believe in the roll genetics play.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 5:30 pm to dukesilver72
quote:many folks don't. even more like to claim they don't.
You’d have to be a blind fool to not believe in the roll genetics play.
keep in mind this is about genetics and NOT environment
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 2/16/18 at 5:30 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
I think it's pretty well established that the Asians got most of the good genes.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 5:35 pm to LSUBFA83
quote:like i said in my last post, i think most credit asians' success to their environment... right or wrong
I think it's pretty well established that the Asians got most of the good genes.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 5:36 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
He isn’t wrong. Genetics has at least something to do with the baseline.
It’s nature+nurture.
It’s nature+nurture.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 5:37 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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keep in mind this is about genetics and NOT environment
The thing about genetics is that some genes are better suited for certain environments. You can't really evaluate "superiority" of genes without considering environmental context.
Consider sickle cell with and without context of not getting killed by malaria, it becomes advantageous or deleterious.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 5:39 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
He has also supposedly been quoted as saying that he wanted to have at least 5 children so that he would at least have one who was like him. He had a contract with his first wife, Ivanna, that she would receive bonuses for having children. I think everyone knows that his Golden Child is Ivanka.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 5:39 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Awesome
Posted on 2/16/18 at 5:46 pm to Kafka
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While I am very, very glad Trump defeated Hillary Clinton, he was born on third base but thinks he hit a triple.
Many people born on 3rd base frick up and get picked off or caught in a rundown. Trump stole home. He’s the damn POTUS.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 5:47 pm to dukesilver72
The issue is the idea of someone thinking that they understand the role of how genetics interacts with environment and expanding that overconfidence in understanding into eugenics which is frequently associated with racism and all that good stuff. Using it the way that Trump's language suggests is a rhetorical tool to support racism and to prop up his own ego.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 5:50 pm to Peazey
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Using it the way that Trump's language suggests is a rhetorical tool to support racism and to prop up his own ego.
Not if you have any moral ethos about you at all. Stating a fact does not imply subsequent utility of said fact.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 5:53 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
I believe it definitely gives you an advantage just as being born to people with health issues increases your chances of dealing with the same health problems.
However, I’m sure it’s definitely more environmental than genetics.
However, I’m sure it’s definitely more environmental than genetics.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 5:54 pm to Mohican
His implication is clear. My "moral ethos" has nothing to do with it.
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