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re: Do you accept the notion of the Big Bang as the origin of our universe?
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:00 pm to Langland
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:00 pm to Langland
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and then we are suppose to drink the Kool-aid without questioning it
Actually its much the opposite.
Please, question away. Search for the answers based on scientific inquiry and observable data.
You don't get to fill it in with your particular magic because you "believe". Provide some testable, verifiable evidence.
Otherwise, others will continue to look for the answers based strictly on what can be tested or observed.
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:02 pm to foshizzle
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No, this is not how it was formed
What? Then how do you think it was formed?
If the big bang leading to expansion which led to energy which led to matter grouping which led to gravity which led to earth isn't how earth was formed, then what's you're take on it? You're saying the earth was already formed before the big bang?
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that we do understand a specific divine being.
Where did you get that from? I specifically said it's literally impossible for us to understand a being from a dimension above our own.
This post was edited on 1/4/18 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:03 pm to foshizzle
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This post was edited on 1/4/18 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:04 pm to Fun Bunch
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Please, question away. Search for the answers based on scientific inquiry and observable data.
There are two types of people in these conversations. There are those who need to see facts, evidence, and research in order to lead them to a conclusion based on said evidence.
Then there are people who think that God will always lie just outside of our reach and that faith is the only way to find him.
You can show Darth all the evidence he needs. Then 5 seconds later he will go just beyond the reach of those answers and ask another question that we cannot supply an answer to. God of the gaps if you will.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:05 pm to Fun Bunch
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Search for the answers based on scientific inquiry and observable data.
You don't get to fill it in with your particular magic because you "believe". Provide some testable, verifiable evidence.
As I posted earlier, that's basically impossible.
Imagine if you lived in a body bound by a 2D world. How could you prove the third dimension? You couldn't. You might be able to hypothesize that depth exists. But you'd be literally unable to grasp the true concept of depth because you are bound by two dimensions, even though depth is a very real thing and you exist inside that world you are inevitably bound by the limits of your 2D existence.
Even if a 3D being interacted with you, you'd only be able to perceive and view that interaction in a 2D concept.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:05 pm to DavidTheGnome
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Do you accept the notion of the Big Bang as the origin of our universe?
Yea. I think God put the “Big Bang” in motion as He began his creation.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:07 pm to Supermoto Tiger
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Yea. I think God put the “Big Bang” in motion as He began his creation.
Perfectly logical and reasonable assumption.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:10 pm to foshizzle
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If you want to learn more, sign up for a Physics degree program somewhere and start learning.
They can also take advantage of modern technology and avail themselves of the thousands of YouTube videos, Netflix documentaries, internet searches and various other sources of information about science. I rather think, though, that their religious conditioning has blocked their abilities to distinguish between the how and why of existence.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:14 pm to Breesus
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As I posted earlier, that's basically impossible.
Exactly.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:16 pm to Breesus
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The Christian God and all of the entire history of science can coexist.
Of course. As the nonsense of Christianity is proven incorrect, it simply adapts. All the way to the top, where Christians simply say "our god did it" and walk away.
There's absolutely zero difference between the belief that the Christian god is reponsible, and the belief that a meatball sub floating around the moon did it.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:17 pm to Breesus
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Imagine
Why?
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:27 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Why?
Because as a human you have the mental capacity to do so and imagination is what put us and keeps us as apex predators and rulers of this planet?
How do you think science works? You develop a hypothesis and then you work to prove it. That's imagination.
Why are you so against discussion, theorizing, and philosophy?
This post was edited on 1/4/18 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:28 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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As the nonsense of Christianity is proven incorrect
You have a link to the proof that God doesn't exist?
And a link to the exact explanation of what created the dense ball that created the universe?
This post was edited on 1/4/18 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:31 pm to Breesus
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Imagine if you lived in a body bound by a 2D world. How could you prove the third dimension? You couldn't. You might be able to hypothesize that depth exists. But you'd be literally unable to grasp the true concept of depth because you are bound by two dimensions, even though depth is a very real thing and you exist inside that world you are inevitably bound by the limits of your 2D existence.
Even if a 3D being interacted with you, you'd only be able to perceive and view that interaction in a 2D concept.
It's one thing to have the idea there are other dimensions outside of our own (something that cannot at our current understanding be proven nor disproven), it's quite another to say there is some omnipotent being in that dimension and he crosses over into ours and makes us worship him. There being the possibility of other dimensions isn't an argument for there being a god.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:33 pm to Breesus
You're right.
A solid sphere passing through a 2D world would look like an expanding then contracting circle.
A solid sphere passing through a 2D world would look like an expanding then contracting circle.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:33 pm to Breesus
Sure, but why would I imagine something that is provably false?
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:34 pm to Breesus
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You have a link to the proof that God doesn't exist?
And a link to the exact explanation of what created the dense ball that created the universe?
I don't need either, because I never claimed to have either.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:37 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Sure, but why would I imagine something that is provably false?
Probably false?
Ok, show us this proof.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:37 pm to Darth_Vader
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Probably false?
No.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:38 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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No
What were talking about then?
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