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re: Do we have any 9/11 Truthers on here
Posted on 3/10/17 at 10:22 am to goldennugget
Posted on 3/10/17 at 10:22 am to goldennugget
My god you are stupid... go move to Iraq you maggot......
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Posted on 3/10/17 at 10:23 am to TeddyPadillac
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TeddyPadillac
im just going off the hole in the wall...its really not big enough to be a hole from a 757...that has been discussed at length with no debunking other than that it just fricking all disintegrated on impact...the wings should have done some damage.....you would think some of those windows would have at least broken that are literally right next to that hole had the wings of 757 hit the wall...
Posted on 3/10/17 at 10:25 am to SthGADawg
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its really not big enough to be a hole from a 757...
You have to present evidence to support this.
Give me an example to support this claim.
I'll wait.
Posted on 3/10/17 at 10:25 am to goldennugget
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No one has ever been able to explain Building 7, for example.
sure. Posted on 3/10/17 at 10:36 am to Salmon
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maybe they released the one with the best view and the others don't show anything?
from what I understand the others were never made available...
Posted on 3/10/17 at 10:42 am to Salmon
evidence?...you mentioned Google...go look it up...im at work and have spent entirely too much time on this thread already...the dimensions from the plane vs. the dimensions of the damage...both facts that can be confirmed...do not coincide...that plane...should...in theory do way more damage than that...just based on direction, weight, speed, angle, etc. the hole was relatively small compared to the enormity of that particular aircraft...the answer you seek are out there.
i used to be hard and fast 9/11 believer and lets go kill some hajis and blah blah blah...i also trusted GWB about WMD's...yeah that one turned out well..
all im proposing is that maybe...just maybe...there is some alternate truth out there regarding that day...im not saying it never happened nor that I don't believe that Al Qaeda was in some part involved...and I really don't ever get mixed up with what happened in NY at the WTC....but working in aviation...and for the govt...the pentagon incident just seems fishy man....
i used to be hard and fast 9/11 believer and lets go kill some hajis and blah blah blah...i also trusted GWB about WMD's...yeah that one turned out well..
all im proposing is that maybe...just maybe...there is some alternate truth out there regarding that day...im not saying it never happened nor that I don't believe that Al Qaeda was in some part involved...and I really don't ever get mixed up with what happened in NY at the WTC....but working in aviation...and for the govt...the pentagon incident just seems fishy man....
Posted on 3/10/17 at 10:44 am to SthGADawg
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im just going off the hole in the wall...its really not big enough to be a hole from a 757...that has been discussed at length with no debunking other than that it just fricking all disintegrated on impact...the wings should have done some damage.....you would think some of those windows would have at least broken that are literally right next to that hole had the wings of 757 hit the wall...
So you're basing all of this on your opinion b/c you're an expert in plane crashes?
Here's some actual facts to help debunk your stupid opinion, but i'm sure you'll find something wrong with it.
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It was the only area of the Pentagon with a sprinkler system, and it had been reconstructed with a web of steel columns and bars to withstand bomb blasts. The steel reinforcement, bolted together to form a continuous structure through all of the Pentagon's five floors, kept that section of the building from collapsing for 30 minutes—enough time for hundreds of people to crawl out to safety. The area struck by the plane also had blast-resistant windows—2 inches thick and 2,500 pounds each—that stayed intact during the crash and fire. It had fire doors that opened automatically and newly built exits that allowed people to get out
That area had been renovated recently, b/c of the Oklahoma city bombing. I guess they did this renovation just so they could fly a plane into it and have minimal casualties.
Posted on 3/10/17 at 10:46 am to SthGADawg
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the dimensions from the plane vs. the dimensions of the damage...both facts that can be confirmed...do not coincide...that plane...should...in theory do way more damage than that...just based on direction, weight, speed, angle, etc. the hole was relatively small compared to the enormity of that particular aircraft...the answer you seek are out there.
124' plane left a 75' hole
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all im proposing is that maybe...just maybe...there is some alternate truth out there regarding that day...im not saying it never happened nor that I don't believe that Al Qaeda was in some part involved...and I really don't ever get mixed up with what happened in NY at the WTC....but working in aviation...and for the govt...the pentagon incident just seems fishy man....
and I'm sure there are plenty of details that we don't know or have been purposely left out or twisted
but I have yet to see any real evidence of claims proving anything other than the main story of what happened that day
it was an unprecedented event, so it is impossible to say things should have happened this way or that way
Posted on 3/10/17 at 10:47 am to TeddyPadillac
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That area had been renovated recently, b/c of the Oklahoma city bombing. I guess they did this renovation just so they could fly a plane into it and have minimal casualties.
Exactly!
Posted on 3/10/17 at 10:53 am to SthGADawg
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evidence?...you mentioned Google...go look it up...im at work and have spent entirely too much time on this thread already...the dimensions from the plane vs. the dimensions of the damage...both facts that can be confirmed...do not coincide...that plane...should...in theory do way more damage than that...just based on direction, weight, speed, angle, etc. the hole was relatively small compared to the enormity of that particular aircraft...the answer you seek are out there.
LINK
To be fair, these are experts who know a heck of a lot more than you or me. And again, to be fair, your argument is basically just, "Nah, that couldn't happen that way" without any actual proof. And these experts are telling you, "yea, it could happen that way."
But you're choosing not to believe them.
This post was edited on 3/10/17 at 10:59 am
Posted on 3/10/17 at 1:14 pm to CarRamrod
Financial stuffwas destroyed there dude
Posted on 3/10/17 at 1:16 pm to Salmon
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124' plane left a 75' hole
I've seen this debunked. The wings folded in on impact.
Posted on 3/10/17 at 1:18 pm to upgrayedd
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The wings folded in on impact.
Right which makes sense considering how fortified the Pentagon is
I was trying to show that guy that it still created a massive hole
he was acting like the hole was about 10' wide
Posted on 3/10/17 at 1:21 pm to LSU12223
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Technically they are right, but what it does is soften the steel beams and "bends" them and makes them weak. It will not melt the beams, but they are still wrong.
and that is why they are morons...to think steel has to actually melt to fail is assinine
Posted on 3/10/17 at 1:22 pm to upgrayedd
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I've seen this debunked. The wings folded in on impact.
It shouldn't need to be debunked.
This wasn't the Wiley Coyote flying a plane from Acme.
They didn't fold in like a paper airplane. they were sheered off and ripped to shreds upon meeting a steel reinforced wall that was built to withstand a bomb explosion.
Posted on 3/10/17 at 1:24 pm to Salmon
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Right which makes sense considering how fortified the Pentagon is
I was trying to show that guy that it still created a massive hole
he was acting like the hole was about 10' wide
If the planners of the attack were so brilliant, then why wouldn't they make a hole with an exact silhouette of the plane if that's indeed how the physics would play out?
There's an assumption one has to make to accept these theories - the masterminds are the smartest yet dumbest people on earth.
Posted on 3/10/17 at 1:30 pm to The Boat
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Like I said earlier people like you do a disservice to people actually trying to get real answers about 9/11 by saying the things like this.
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Truthers go too deep and too retarded when simple things like that are what could reveal answers.
Posted on 3/10/17 at 1:36 pm to lsu13lsu
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But I think our government is capable of anything the more the leaks come out.
Well the later part of that sentence is the key. Leaks. Keep in mind that 3 years earlier they couldn't cover up the President getting a blowjob.
How could they possibly cover up the biggest attack in American history when thousands would have to be in on it? That's like an Ozymandias level conspiracy, and only 6 people knew about that, and word still got out. Someone would have immediately gone to the press or the FBI with knowledge of that horrible of an attack.
Posted on 3/10/17 at 1:38 pm to OMLandshark
Posted on 3/10/17 at 1:50 pm to Bunk Moreland
shite like Northwoods is why no one should trust the CIA. They are a tPOS agency
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