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re: Do we as a country suck at solving murders, or are detectives under qualified?

Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:36 pm to
Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:36 pm to
This guy is retired.

Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:36 pm to
I'll take it Houston

This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 3:37 pm
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:37 pm to
Do you think it is easier to get away with murder or to catch and convict a murderer? I'll give you a hint, the less established the relationship between the victim and the offender the easier the former becomes.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:39 pm to
It's hard to solve a murder, when the people who actually witnessed, some being as close to 3 feet from it, refuse to talk.


Some people know how to commit the perfect murder.

Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:39 pm to
Go watch the Amanda Knox doc on Netflix and you'll see just how good the American criminal justice system is compared to other "developed" nations. We're not perfect but we're better than most.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:40 pm to
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It's hard to solve a murder, when the people who actually witnessed, some being as close to 3 feet from it, refuse to talk.


Some people know how to commit the perfect murder.


This.

Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:40 pm to
Who is Dexter Morgan?

What about Danny Heinrich? The guy who's the face behind the entire podcast I'm talking about. He was questioned many times, brought in about his involvement with killing Jacob Wetterling (an 11 year old), had the color car described in multiple other cases, had the same build and lived 2 towns over. Did the solve it? No. He confessed 27 years later. For 27 years his family lived in agony wondering where their kid/nephew/grandkid was because of shitty detective work.
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:42 pm to
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had the color car described in multiple other cases, had the same build and lived 2 towns over. Did the solve it?


Is this all that is needed to solve a murder?
Posted by gatorrocks
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:43 pm to
Drive by's are difficult to solve
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:43 pm to
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Go watch the Amanda Knox doc on Netflix and you'll see just how good the American criminal justice system is compared to other "developed" nations. We're not perfect but we're better than most.


The one about McAfee in Belize murdering people was good too.

DNA evidence? Oh, we don't have a DNA lab in Belize.
Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:44 pm to
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The one about McAfee in Belize murdering people was good too.



This guy is 1000% crazy.
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:46 pm to
Have you listened to the facts presented? There were dozens and dozens of other facts that linked him to it, and to prior incidences that almost resulted in this exact same thing. He walked because of shitty detective work.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:46 pm to
If I shot and killed someone and there were no witnesses, I feel as though I would have to to really frick up to get caught. Especially if I had a dirty gun.
This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 3:49 pm
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:48 pm to
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Is this all that is needed to solve a murder?



You just kind of need to listen to the Podcast

The local sheriff's department(s) did an absolute dog shite job. They basically ruined an innocent person's life and the murder lead to a bunch federal overreach in doubling down on sex offender laws.


Posted by redstick13
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:48 pm to
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McAfee in Belize


Check out John Pinder from Utah. Kills two people then gets caught because he decided a good way to dispose of the bodies would be to blow them up. People heard the explosion, cops showed up and found itty bitty body bits all over the place.

He also drove around town with a pet lion in the back of his truck.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:49 pm to
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The one about McAfee in Belize murdering people was good too.

DNA evidence? Oh, we don't have a DNA lab in Belize.


I'll have to check that out.


Apparently the Italians just put all their unsealed evidence in one big pile and start running DNA tests.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
67239 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:50 pm to
Great podcast. Just listened to the one you're talking about. Stats are crazy
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:53 pm to
9 times out of 10 a murder is solved because someone spilled the beans to the popo. If you want to get away with murder, it's very simple. Do it all by yourself...no accomplices and never ever speak about it to anyone.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139207 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:53 pm to
You'd probably be interested in a book called "Ghettoside". It's about this kind of stuff in L.A.

Just started reading it. Very interesting.
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:53 pm to
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have to check that out.


Apparently the Italians just put all their unsealed evidence in one big pile and start running DNA tests.




Italy is a 3 world shithole with history and a good location. Their Government is corrupt as you can get.
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