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re: Do They Still Teach Common Core Math In School? And What Is The Point Of It?
Posted on 5/30/19 at 8:51 pm to slackster
Posted on 5/30/19 at 8:51 pm to slackster
The only work I was ever asked to show on multiplication was crossing out digits and carrying a one without any explanation as to why that was the correct move
Posted on 5/30/19 at 8:52 pm to tigercross
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he way that good math thinkers perform calculations without realizing it.
Jesus this sounds like a load of bullshite. Read the book "How Not To Be Wrong".
Posted on 5/30/19 at 8:53 pm to OweO
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Is there a math teacher on the board who can explain the point of this?
The point is to teach multiple solutions to mathematical problems, instead of working the same way over and over. Many mathematical equations have multiple solutions. This example teaches that multiples of 10 can be broken down simply and quickly rather than just relying on memorization of multiplication tables.
Posted on 5/30/19 at 8:54 pm to tigercross
Risk?
This post was edited on 5/30/19 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 5/30/19 at 8:57 pm to jrodLSUke
Exactly. Teach a kid that 243 = 3x3x3x3 = 81x3 = 27x9 instead of memorizing multiplication tables above 7
Posted on 5/30/19 at 8:57 pm to tigercross
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Common core math is simply trying to teach the average person the way that good math thinkers perform calculations without realizing it.
I always did this naturally and at one point tried to explain one of my math teachers and she brushed it off, likely I did not explain it well. It is one of those things that sound convoluted and looks even more so on paper but is very easy in your head.
Posted on 5/30/19 at 9:00 pm to Obtuse1
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It is one of those things that sound convoluted and looks even more so on paper but is very easy in your head.
Looks more complicated on paper because there's more "work" to show, but it's really just breaking it down into easy to work with pieces.
Posted on 5/30/19 at 9:02 pm to jrodLSUke
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The point is to teach multiple solutions to mathematical problems, instead of working the same way over and over. Many mathematical equations have multiple solutions. This example teaches that multiples of 10 can be broken down simply and quickly rather than just relying on memorization of multiplication tables.
Even as a kid that was already in my head. 10 x 30 obviously equaled 300 and so on. I use to make Bs & Cs on my test because I wouldn't show the work, but I would argue what was the point as long as I provide the answer.
If I get the answer correct, why does it matter how I do it?
Posted on 5/30/19 at 9:02 pm to tigercross
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Exactly. Teach a kid that 243 = 3x3x3x3 = 81x3 = 27x9 instead of memorizing multiplication tables above 7
I would do 27x10, then subtract 30, then add 3 in my head (for 27x9). Different route, same destination)
Posted on 5/30/19 at 9:05 pm to Ric Flair
You are Ric Flair! Whatever way you do it is the right way!
Posted on 5/30/19 at 9:09 pm to OweO
Common core math is great for teaching higher level thinking in pk through 4th.
After that, math is the same math it’s always been.
There is nothing wrong with higher level thinking. We should be encouraging it.
After that, math is the same math it’s always been.
There is nothing wrong with higher level thinking. We should be encouraging it.
Posted on 5/30/19 at 9:13 pm to Sir Drinksalot
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Common core math is great for teaching higher level thinking in pk through 4th.
After that, math is the same math it’s always been.
There is nothing wrong with higher level thinking. We should be encouraging it.
I would argue that in most public schools, half the students would be better served with rote memorization of the times tables. To paraphrase George Carlin, look at the average person, and realize that half the population is dumber than this motherfricker.
Posted on 5/30/19 at 9:20 pm to OweO
I have a weird problem with common core. I’m left handed, but like most left handed people I’m actually cross dominant (I.e I’m right handed at some tasks, left handed at others.....but I write left handed).
As an adult I’m a engineer with as much earning potential as I’ll ever need, and as a kid my best subject by far was math.
But, I have never been able to write for endurance, my left hand tires quickly when writing (endurance and strength I’m right handed, coordination I’m left handed). I was always a straight C student in English, mostly I got legit tired of writing. Always an A student in math where I can pump out a few numbers and reliably get the right and answer.
Any math class where “explaining” via written language how you got a problem is most of the grade, is going to hurt kids like I was.
Let alone if they insist on having only right handed desks in school....
As an adult I’m a engineer with as much earning potential as I’ll ever need, and as a kid my best subject by far was math.
But, I have never been able to write for endurance, my left hand tires quickly when writing (endurance and strength I’m right handed, coordination I’m left handed). I was always a straight C student in English, mostly I got legit tired of writing. Always an A student in math where I can pump out a few numbers and reliably get the right and answer.
Any math class where “explaining” via written language how you got a problem is most of the grade, is going to hurt kids like I was.
Let alone if they insist on having only right handed desks in school....
Posted on 5/30/19 at 9:20 pm to slackster
I have a math minor. So math is something I enjoy
When I heard the fuss of common core math I checked it out. I looked at my 6’4” redheaded frothing at the mouth overly conservative father and said “thats just math”
He freaked out He is a very smart man but can’t do math but swore this was a ploy by the left to take over the world
When I heard the fuss of common core math I checked it out. I looked at my 6’4” redheaded frothing at the mouth overly conservative father and said “thats just math”
He freaked out He is a very smart man but can’t do math but swore this was a ploy by the left to take over the world
This post was edited on 5/30/19 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 5/30/19 at 9:21 pm to Sir Drinksalot
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There is nothing wrong with higher level thinking. We should be encouraging it.
I don't have a problem with higher level thinking. But it's math.
It just seems like it could discourage kids from math even more, if they are not that good at it. If they really want to teach math effectively, they should do so by applying to something they can relate to.. A lot of people think "why do we learn this, we will never use it again", but we know that isn't true.
We use math every day without even knowing it, but if they knew how it could be applied to do more then that is an even more helpful tool than having them just look at it as numbers.
Posted on 5/30/19 at 9:23 pm to Ric Flair
This is the first time I have ever seen pro common core understanding. Good job people.
Common core is a set of topics to learn, how that is achieved is up to the teacher.
This new math is not common core math, it’s just math that has been proven to give its users a better concept of the subject
Common core is a set of topics to learn, how that is achieved is up to the teacher.
This new math is not common core math, it’s just math that has been proven to give its users a better concept of the subject
Posted on 5/30/19 at 9:26 pm to lsupride87
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I have a math minor. So math is something I enjoy
Should calculus teachers teach the “shortcut” on derivatives initially or do it the longer way to understand the concepts? Are the “concepts” of multiplication rote memorization of times tables, or the common core concepts?
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