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re: Do normal people get PHDs?

Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:57 am to
Posted by CSATiger
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:57 am to
my brother has a PhD, so no , no normal people
Posted by BregmansWheelbarrow
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 1:34 am to
My great uncle is your typical 75 year old biker dude. If you saw him on the street you’d never guess you were looking at a guy that worked for NASA for 3 decades and is a literal rocket scientist.
Posted by ECOTIGER
westbank for life
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 2:12 am to
Unrelated to the topic, but what does the stb in your username stand for?
Posted by stbtiger87
BR
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 8:13 am to
Grew up in St. Bernard.

Had a roommate at LSU who would have a few beers and start posting on our computers to see how fast he could get us banned. This was something like my fourth username on TD and ran out of ideas.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 8:38 am to
I know a bunch of people who most would consider "normal" with Post Hole Degrees....about as salt of the earth types as you could ask for....


I had a classmate in college who, after bombing a calculus exam, complained about our profs education. Someone asked him what he meant and, swear to god, this dude unironically says "Bastard has a degree in philosophy, not math. No wonder half his class is failing". Education is often wasted on the unworthy.....
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 8:49 am to
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Knew a guy with a PHD named Stephen. Complete arse hat about it. A lady was taking his info down at a conference and she asked "is it spelled with a v or a ph" and he responded "it's actually PHD". I wanted slam his stupid face into the table.


Pretty typical. I got into a professional pissing contest (also known as "differing of professional opinion" in regulatory circles) which required a formal resolution with a dude with PhD in environmental science over proper maintenance of....wait for it.....a pile of dirt. Swear to christ. Contractor was charged with maintaining a spoil pile without any guidelines as to what that meant so for about 50 years that pile of dirt had been maintained in the same fashion....it was seeded twice a year and watered every other week and the grass and weeds were cut once a month during the growing season. The State and Federal EPA was happier than a pig in slop over it....this dude, who insisted on being called "Doctor" was convinced that they were not maintaining that pile of dirt properly, and wanted to know why I did not do anything about it. When I told him they were doing exactly what HIS organization had agreed they should do he could not accept it...it took 3 years to resolve and about 40 people were involved....there is now an official record of the proceeding.....not one time in that record is there an instance of me having EVER called that prick "Doctor"....several instances of him reminding everyone he was a Doctor though....
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 8:56 am to
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My great uncle is your typical 75 year old biker dude. If you saw him on the street you’d never guess you were looking at a guy that worked for NASA for 3 decades and is a literal rocket scientist.


Los Alamos County, New Mexico has the highest per-capita congregation of PhDs in the world. Close to 18-20% of the county has a PhD. Many of them go around looking more or less like a derelict rancher down on their luck. Many of them have that look about them typical of their genre...like they really do not understand personal hygiene and wiping their arse is beyond their physical capabilities. Some of them are perfectly normal.


Posted by Supermoto Tiger
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10353 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 11:59 am to
[quote] liberal women that can't get jobs in whatever dumb thing they majored in.[/quote
this
Posted by BregmansWheelbarrow
Member since Mar 2020
3010 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:23 pm to
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it took 3 years to resolve and about 40 people were involved....there is now an official record of the proceeding.


Probably the most significant “accomplishment “ of that guys career.
Posted by ECOTIGER
westbank for life
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/26/24 at 6:31 pm to
Same here brotha.
STB!
Posted by Menander Soter
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 8/26/24 at 6:42 pm to
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Supermoto Tiger


You seem like a very bitter person. What’s happened to you in your life? Or, are you just white trash?
Posted by subMOA
Komatipoort
Member since Jan 2010
1876 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 7:20 pm to
My wife has a PhD, she is likely the most amazing person I know….

Great mom, super attractive still at almost 50.

She has dedicated her life to advancements in the medical field- she primarily works in drug delivery innovation- specifically for different types of cancers.
Posted by Sidicous
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Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 8/26/24 at 7:49 pm to
The department head for my 2nd degree got her PHD while I was a student. While at the time it was a real rarity even for professors in the field, she became insufferable for a while. Insisted on being called Dr. even in a clinical setting (ancillary support field, not physicians). She was starting to mellow when I graduated.

That inspired the other professors to start working on their PHD too and has led to them opening a graduate program to earn a masters in addition to the undergraduate program. Basically a masters in the field enables one to become another professor, BS is for management positions as most just get an associates to do the work.
Posted by Jmcc64
alabama
Member since Apr 2021
1327 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 7:56 pm to
my cousin's daughter is getting one at Rice. Math.

my daughter has floated the idea for herself. already has masters in applied math. can get the govt to pay for it as well if she hangs with them.

both very WASPy. I guess both are mostly normal but my daughter says everybody she works with is "weird"
This post was edited on 8/27/24 at 9:49 am
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11587 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 8:03 pm to
Certain careers like biopharma and others involving the sciences absolutely require it for the higher level, higher paying jobs.
Posted by Thecoz
Member since Dec 2018
3432 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 8:05 pm to
“PhDs are for people who want to get paid higher salaries”

Fwiw.. I recruited and worked with a lot of bs.. ms .. and PhD ..oil industry. Not much of a pay difference and after a few years salary is based on results not degree.

We required Geo scientist to have a masters and intern experience with our company.. when we hired PhD they tended to be for our research organization. We found the interaction with coworkers very important also thus in general focused on the masters students.

I know plenty of strong personalities with all the types of degrees.. but you get a PhD to be able to go academic if you want in your career.. or as you said out of country and trying to get an American academic title also. They also had a tendency of getting bored in a mainline job title like interpreting geophysicist and became bored and wanted more academic research jobs..
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41302 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 8:13 pm to
quote:

Do normal people get PHDs?


I liked pretty girls too much.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
18731 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 9:56 pm to
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my cousin's daughter is getting one at Rice. Math. my daughter has floated the idea for herself. already has masters in applied math. can get the govt to pay for it as well if she hangs with them.


Probably THE smartest person I ever met was a mathematician. He was still an undergraduate but just amazing. He was also so badly diabetic that he was blind from it since before even being a toddler. He had to use the red tipped cane to get around and this was before medical technology for self testing blood glucose was very far along. He lived on the 1st floor of the dorm and would ask for a passerby in the hallway to read his test strips. They were a litmus paper color coded thing and he would have to explain it pretty much every time he tested. He had to test often and then inject varying amounts of insulin also prepared by hand.

He was just as smart or smarter than the former Iranian Finance Minister under the Shah who had a PHD in international finance. After the Shah fell he fled to America, settled in central U.S. and became at one point the largest used car dealer in the country. Great guy. You would never know just how powerful or wealthy he had ever been except for his generosity. His idea of a casual gift might be worth thousands.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
33917 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 10:30 pm to
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Credentialism is. Attainment =/= Education.


They are awfully haughty about spending $400k to get a piece of paper that says they barely remember shite any 8th grader with a phone can instantly look up for free.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
11906 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 10:40 pm to
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I always find these sorts of posts interesting as you can tell 1)who went to college and 2)what they studied.
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Now this was in LSU's Arts and Sciences

I think you’re making his point for him.
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How many people in finance, engineering, chemistry, math, accounting end up with PhD's?

This LSU data is from 2022 but it’s the first thing that popped up in a search.

PhD enrollment by curriculum:
Agriculture: 169
Business: 50
Coast and Environment: 71
Engineering: 338
Human Sciences and Education: 237
Humanities and Social Sciences: 341
Mass Communications: 24
Music and Dramatic Arts: 44
Sciences: 442

Agriculture, Coast and Environment, Engineering, and Sciences (read: STEM) accounted for considerably more than 50% of PhD enrollment (1,020 of 1,716, although I’m doing the math on my phone so TIFWIW). That’s without counting the 50 business students in accounting, econ, and business administration.

(ETA: I even missed veterinary medicine because it was at the bottom. That’s another 53.)
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I'm pretty sure OP was referring to mainly A&S grads with doctorates.

Because you have a liberal arts degree and assumed he must be talking about them? Nothing in the OP indicated that’s who he was talking about.
This post was edited on 8/27/24 at 6:46 am
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