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re: Do millennials like classic cars?

Posted on 3/3/20 at 10:45 pm to
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 10:45 pm to
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Like I told him. No, his Volkswagen isn't and investment.



What's funny is you've really shown your ignorance of the classic car market.

American is mostly holding steady or even falling in some cases. Germans have absolutely skyrocketed the past few years.

The Hagerty index for 1950's american has gone up 11% since they began tracking it.

The index for german classics has gone up 400%
This post was edited on 3/3/20 at 10:47 pm
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28430 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 10:46 pm to
Didn't you just say the car you bought (a average 911, IIRC) is worth more now than when you bought it?

You also had use (dividend/interest) of the car.

Sounds like you agree with Jug.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 10:46 pm to
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Compared to what? Other cars? Sure. Compared to traditional market investing? Nah.
Do some research, you idiot.The whole premise we are discussing is right over your head.

On second thought. The mouth breather needs to sue you for defamation over using his photo.

You literally don't understand the concept of what we are talking about.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 10:50 pm to
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What's funny is you've really shown your ignorance of the classic car market.

American is mostly holding steady or even falling in some cases. Germans have absolutely skyrocketed the past few years.



Right! Everyone wants that 88 BMW over that GTO Judge.

Look, some rare Porsches an BMWs have done well. Only the specialty cars.

Now, take a stock 66 Chevy II in good condition and it is highly desirable.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 10:51 pm to
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Didn't you just say the car you bought (a average 911, IIRC) is worth more now than when you bought it?


Yes
quote:

Sounds like you agree with Jug.



Not at all. My car probably gained a few percentage points in value since its purchase a few years ago. 10% at most but probably less.

My equities portfolio went up by over 30% in that time frame.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28430 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 10:53 pm to
Hagerty sells agreed value insurance for classic cars.

It is in their best interest to inflate values (customers pay higher premiums).

It is a resource and is somewhat useful in a general way, but just realize they are overly optimistic in their valuations.

I don't disagree re: German marques, especially Porsche.

Air-cooled cars, especially.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 10:53 pm to
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My equities portfolio went up by over 30% in that time frame.

We're not discussing the market.
quote:

Do millennials like classic cars?

Can you not comprehend the subject of the thread?

Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35573 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 10:59 pm to
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Now, take a stock 66 Chevy II in good condition and it is highly desirable.



Lmao I just looked those up and there's an SS with only 61k miles that the owner has dropped almost 20k off the price since he originally listed it.

Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55918 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 11:00 pm to
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Bottom dropped out of the economy in 2008? Guess what remained solid?

those stocks are doing much better than the cars. you aren't good at this.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28430 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 11:05 pm to
So if an average 911 went up 10 points what would a real sharp, rare car do?

I bet way better than
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30%


Guys that do this stuff day im and day out do pretty well.

Like anything else, you have to work at it, and do your research.

Sound familiar?
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 11:05 pm to
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Lmao I just looked those up and there's an SS with only 61k miles that the owner has dropped almost 20k off the price since he originally listed it.

You found one example.

Be glad I don't feel like looking up re-badged Volkswagens.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 11:09 pm to
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VetteGuy

Don't waste any more time. They are literally too stupid to even comprehend the premise of the discussion.

Let them think they have won the debate. They don't even realize. They haven't figure out the subject material.

Ask Redbone about these two.

Posted by HamzooReb
Utah
Member since Mar 2013
12113 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 11:12 pm to
I'm barely classified as a millennial, but I have nothing against classic cars. I wouldn't go out of my way to own one or anything. I just prefer the tech and aesthetics of modern cars.
Posted by unbeWEAVEable
The Golf Board Godfather
Member since Apr 2010
13637 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 11:15 pm to
I was born in ‘89, so right in the middle of what is considered “millennial”. I’ve got a restored 1970 Chevelle I’m still working on, so yes, we still appreciate classic cars.

I even listen to music from way back when, too.

ETA: looks very much like this one. Having trouble posting a pic from a zip file on my phone.

This post was edited on 3/3/20 at 11:19 pm
Posted by LSUinMA
Commerce, Texas
Member since Nov 2008
4777 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 11:16 pm to
I’m GenX and I routinely drive my 55 Chevrolet on a college campus in Texas and students take no notice of it at all.

Ten years ago it was a ‘66 Mustang that students ignored. That campus was in Massachusetts so I was not too surprised. But Texas? Sad.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28430 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 11:20 pm to
I hate to hear that, but I'm not surprised.

I do think younger people generally aren't as interested in cars, unless you can get 'em out on a track.

Ultimately, that will be the end, or at least lessening, of the hobby.
Posted by parrothead
big salty ham
Member since Mar 2010
4464 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 11:20 pm to
An older guy down the street growing up (Late 80s/ early 90s) had ~68-70 canary yellow Chevelle with black racing stripes. I’ve always wanted to own one in that year and color. maybe it’s in the fold, maybe not.

ETA: unbeweaveable, that’s a damn sexy car
This post was edited on 3/3/20 at 11:27 pm
Posted by CivilTiger83
Member since Dec 2017
2525 posts
Posted on 3/4/20 at 6:57 am to
By the time most baby boomers hit the job market in the early 80s, they experienced one of the longest prosperous economic periods in the past 200 years from 1980 to the early 2000s. When many millenials were getting their first jobs or first hourses, they experienced one the worst recessions since the Great Depression.

A baby boomer that wasn't wasteful was hit by the Great Recession, but they had 30 years of gains to fall back on. That recovery doesn't happen overnight for millenials. I think for a lot of millenials, they see their parents spend on things that bring no lasting joy like cars or houses that are much bigger than they need and it doesn't excite them much.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
18893 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 1:56 pm to
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As long as you buy stocks at the right price, you can’t lose
Dis-ingenious statement.

Stipulation causes the point to indicate a person can see the future.

You only have to look at the market this past week to see that volatility is unpredictable.

note: My investments are mostly in stock market, not cars BUT GLT24 has an untenable stance.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
18893 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:05 pm to
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JohnnyKilroy

quote:

SavageOrangeJug
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Now, take a stock 66 Chevy II in good condition and it is highly desirable.




Lmao I just looked those up and there's an SS with only 61k miles that the owner has dropped almost 20k off the price since he originally listed it.
Bad example.

Owner obviously paid too much.

"owner has dropped almost 20k off the price" <- dropped $20k? Wut? $20k off of HOW MUCH? I hope that was $20k off of $30k!

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