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re: Do millennials like classic cars?

Posted on 3/3/20 at 9:54 pm to
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 9:54 pm to
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Jay Leno (and others) will tell you they've lost money in the market, but not on their classic cars.
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Jesus lol
You think it isn't true?

Two things you will never lose money on as long as you don't overpay when you buy. Classic cars and good quality firearms.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 9:59 pm to
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Two things you will never lose money on as long as you don't overpay when you buy. Classic cars and good quality firearms.



Brilliant analysis.

BTW almost no cars beat the market in appreciation lol.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 10:05 pm to
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Brilliant analysis.

Obviously you're into neither one.

Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 10:07 pm to
As long as you buy stocks at the right price, you can’t lose
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 10:09 pm to
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As long as you buy stocks at the right price, you can’t lose

Classic cars and guns are not guesswork.

Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 10:11 pm to
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Obviously you're into neither one.




I'm very much into automobiles and they are terrible investments compared to equities.
Posted by MojoGuyPan
Intercession City, Florida
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 10:14 pm to
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Performance: 1969 b.b. V8 vs. 2010 6.2 V8

Engine for comparison 396 cu. in. (6.5 liter) 4-bbl. / 6.2 liter (376 cu. in.) LS3 V8 (-5%)

Horsepower (SAE net) (1969 net figure estimated) 375 (SAE gross) - 260 (est. SAE net) / 422 (w/6-speed manual) (+68%)

0-60: 6.8* / 4.7***

Quarter mile: 14.2 @ 102 mph* / 13.2 @ 110***

Top speed: 125 mph* / 170 mph***


The numbers don't lie. The newer Camaros are more powerful, faster, handle better, have better breaking, safety and fuel mileage.

Boomers holding on to their fantasies don't want the facts, their nostalgia and emotions take over and make them irrational.

Classic muscle cars look better because of the lower wider stance but in reality drive like shite. Buck and Red can have their boomer lemon party, but facts are facts and technology has improved significantly since in the last 50 years.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 10:16 pm to
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Classic cars and guns are not guesswork.
oh lord
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 10:17 pm to
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I'm very much into automobiles and they are terrible investments compared to equities.


Your glorified Volkswagen was not an investment. Neither is your buddy's Honda Accord.

That 69 Z28 or 55 hardtop was an investment.

That 59 Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz bought 20 years ago was a freakin' gold mine.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 10:18 pm to
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GreatLakesTiger24
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oh lord
You are literally too stupid to be in this conversation.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 10:18 pm to
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That 59 Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz bought 20 years ago was a freakin' gold mine.



How much were they worth then and how much are they worth now.



Also, my glorified volkswagen is worth more now than when I bought it
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 10:18 pm to
Literally

Jesus Christ
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 10:22 pm to
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How much were they worth then and how much are they worth now.
Then you could have probably got one for $20-50,000. All condition dependent

Now, dependent upon condition? $125-200,000

Here is one in New York. $158,000

If you find one a lot cheaper. You better do some SERIOUS investigation before you buy.

EDIT: The one for sale here has a replacement engine. Not even the original.
This post was edited on 3/3/20 at 10:24 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 10:25 pm to
Your example doesn’t even beat the market
Nice try tho
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 10:28 pm to
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Your example doesn’t even beat the market
Nice try tho
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 10:34 pm to
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Your example doesn’t even beat the market
Nice try tho


Yep.


Let's not even get into the amount of money it costs to restore these to a point where they would bring in top dollar.

I'm looking at the Hagerty indexes. Pretty good resource. The American 1950's category, which the Caddy is in, has been mostly flat since 2007. It's gone up about 11% since then.

Imagine only getting 11% total over 13 years in the market lmao. For reference, the SP500 has gone up over 100% in that time frame haha.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 10:36 pm to
I don't know what point you are trying to make.

Yes, cars are bad investments. I don't even know anyone that thinks they are.

Classic cars, cars that are restored, rare cars etc, are very good investments.


A 911 with 17 previous owners? I wouldn't make it part of my "portfolio".
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 10:39 pm to
Keep that mouth breather avatar. PERFECT representation.

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Two things you will never lose money on as long as you don't overpay when you buy. Classic cars and good quality firearms.


Bottom dropped out of the economy in 2008? Guess what remained solid?
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never lose
Classic cars and good quality firearms

Show me where I said they were the top investment?

Bottom falls out tomorrow. Guns and classic cars won't.

Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
35618 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 10:40 pm to
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Classic cars, cars that are restored, rare cars etc, are very good investments.



Compared to what? Other cars? Sure. Compared to traditional market investing? Nah.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 3/3/20 at 10:42 pm to
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Classic cars, cars that are restored, rare cars etc, are very good investments.

A 911 with 17 previous owners? I wouldn't make it part of my "portfolio"

Like I told him. No, his Volkswagen isn't and investment.

He isn't trying to make a point. He never does.

That mouth breather is the best representation he can have as his avatar.

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