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re: Do ER doctors earn a lot compared to other drs?

Posted on 2/28/21 at 12:25 pm to
Posted by tigerinthebueche
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Posted on 2/28/21 at 12:25 pm to
So you have “rounds” on top of ER duty?
Posted by Norbert
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Posted on 2/28/21 at 12:28 pm to
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All doctors make bank


It seems that way until you dig more deeply into the postponement of significant income until their 30s and the large debt burden.
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 2/28/21 at 12:30 pm to
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All doctors make bank


Yeah that’s not true
Posted by MSTiger33
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Posted on 2/28/21 at 12:30 pm to
Friend of ours is in the field. Makes $400k and only works three days a week
Posted by Hopeful Doc
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Posted on 2/28/21 at 12:32 pm to
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He was comparing a surgeon to a physician...I brought up a neuro surgeon to make it more comparable



The list does not have neurosurgeons on it. You were commenting on neurology salaries, suggesting it must not include their surgeries. I said you probably shouldn’t let them do just about any surgery you were thinking of on you, poking a little fun at your cross-reference.
Posted by Norbert
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Posted on 2/28/21 at 12:35 pm to
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That’s a very interesting graph and I am totally surprised by some aspects of it.


Under our current model, doctors largely get paid for things they DO to patients. What they can charge depends on what insurance companies and the government are willing to pay, which they don't have much control over. They have much more freedom when it comes to elective procedures.

Once you understand this, you will understand why the breakdown is what it is, and why doctors are so focused on doing billable things to you.

But it's not all on doctors. American patients also expect things to be done to them, or they feel like their time and money were wasted. Few Americans like to go to the doctor to hear "It will get better on its own over the course of a month. Take Tylenol in the meantime and rest."
Posted by Lithium
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Posted on 2/28/21 at 12:35 pm to
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Charity was a shite show but I’m jealous you got to train there. I bet you saw some unreal stuff.


Training at the Big Free is why I'm the ER Gawd I am today
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So you have “rounds” on top of ER duty?

No, if I stop by it's because you were really an interesting case or a real nice patient

and the person who said you only work 12-14 shifts it's true but you work nights and weekends and Holidays. I got a lot of Prom and Homecoming pics with the Lithette's (no pics) in the ER on their way out.
This post was edited on 2/28/21 at 12:39 pm
Posted by Lithium
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Posted on 2/28/21 at 12:42 pm to
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The list does not have neurosurgeons on it


Neurosurgeons make well over a million. 7-9 year residency that they work their arse off. Highest malpractice rates by far. Terrible lifestyle. Not many people go into it. Huge shortage. MOST hospitals don't have a neurosurgeon and transferring out a Brain bleed is very difficult sometimes
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 2/28/21 at 12:45 pm to
Where ya working at now Lith????
Posted by windshieldman
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Posted on 2/28/21 at 12:48 pm to
Doctors actually make more than paramedics do, they also really respect paramedics.


Posted by TDTOM
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Posted on 2/28/21 at 1:02 pm to
I have a client that is an ER doc at a tier 1 trauma center in Austin. He is a chill dude with a good sense of humor.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
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Posted on 2/28/21 at 1:06 pm to
Thanks for your concern. My wife is a PA for Neurosurgeon for the past 20 years. I’m pretty sure if I ever needed brain, back or neck surgery I know where to go.
Posted by 62Tigerfan
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Posted on 2/28/21 at 1:51 pm to
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Posted by Lithium
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Posted on 2/28/21 at 2:50 pm to
South Alabama for a small group
This post was edited on 2/28/21 at 2:50 pm
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 2/28/21 at 2:50 pm to
Do make more than paramedics and do a lot more

Respect Paramedics in general no, unfortunately most paramedics aren’t that good. A good one is very respected
This post was edited on 2/28/21 at 2:53 pm
Posted by uptowntiger84
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Posted on 2/28/21 at 2:53 pm to
I'll take no emotion and they correctly diagnose my problem than have an emotional doctor with a misdiagnosis.
Posted by NPComb
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Posted on 2/28/21 at 3:35 pm to
Yeah about $350K/yr
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 2/28/21 at 3:39 pm to
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She also added that every Trauma doc she’s worked with has been the most emotionally cold person she’s ever met. Zero emotional reaction to anything.



I think that's probably a desirable trait to some extent. If you are an empath you would still be ruminating over the bad outcomes hours or days later.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 2/28/21 at 3:40 pm to
Internal Med MD's are probably the bottom of the barrel from a quality perspective. Most fellows nowadays are majority cringey. They are usually your primary care docs and many of the younger benefitted from Title IX. I'm just thankful that surgeons and other specialists still maintain some higher standards unlike fricking law graduates. It's a popularity contest to get in and the Barr - (well, umm it's been lowered.)
Posted by Big Block Stingray
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Posted on 2/28/21 at 3:57 pm to
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Internal Med MD's are probably the bottom of the barrel from a quality perspective.


I have to respectfully disagree. The large majority of the IMs I have worked with over the years are among the brightest and most attentive. The knowledge base required for IM is extremely broad, unlike a narrow scope of focus as some of the other specialties/sub-specialties.
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