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re: Do deniers of evolution believe in other species of human?
Posted on 7/2/18 at 2:37 pm to RobbBobb
Posted on 7/2/18 at 2:37 pm to RobbBobb
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All life from a single planet contains similar building blocks? Wow! Its as if the creator, or the natural selector, had the same materials to work with
That's your understanding of genetics.
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Posted on 7/2/18 at 2:38 pm to RobbBobb
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I know exactly what I am referring to, and No, what I am referring to is physically impossible to have been observed.
Then let us know specifically what you're talking about because "macro evolution" really has no meaning beyond speciation, which again, has been observed numerous times.
So, unless you're making the argument that we have to directly observe humans over thousands of years to prove evolution, I'm not sure what you're arguing.
Posted on 7/2/18 at 2:39 pm to northshorebamaman
They want to literally see a pinecone turn into an elephant.
Posted on 7/2/18 at 2:43 pm to Fun Bunch
Pretty much the only countries where there are significant numbers of evolution deniers are improvised nations, Muslim countries, and (mostly hardcore Protestant groups) the US.
This post was edited on 7/2/18 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 7/2/18 at 2:46 pm to Fun Bunch
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wat
You do get that people have been wrongly sentenced to prison, using the working backwards form of your so-called observational technique?
You cannot simply examine fossils and proclaim, Yup, this is what happened, without actually having watched it happen. Youre just guessing. Otherwise, theories could never be 'changed' by new 'evidence'. Because you just proved the first guy was clueless with his 'best guess'
Like I said before, you don't have all the scientific facts. And in 100 years, what you now accept as fact will no longer be verified by 'the science' of the day. So its still faith on your part
Good luck with that
Posted on 7/2/18 at 2:48 pm to RobbBobb
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You cannot simply examine fossils and proclaim, Yup, this is what happened, without actually having watched it happen.
Do you think this is how it is done with Evolution?
Posted on 7/2/18 at 2:49 pm to Fun Bunch
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That's your understanding of genetics.
Nice diversion, now explain how you can recognize how genetics differs from one being created, or as a natural process. You know the ole chicken and egg, and all
Posted on 7/2/18 at 2:50 pm to RobbBobb
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You cannot simply examine fossils and proclaim, Yup, this is what happened, without actually having watched it happen. Youre just guessing. Otherwise, theories could never be 'changed' by new 'evidence'. Because you just proved the first guy was clueless with his 'best guess'
Your understanding of how science works is that of my 5 year old
Posted on 7/2/18 at 2:51 pm to RobbBobb
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You cannot simply examine fossils and proclaim, Yup, this is what happened, without actually having watched it happen.
Besides the fact that this a ridiculously simplistic hot take, we have watched it happen. Third post pointing this out for anyone counting at home.
Posted on 7/2/18 at 2:52 pm to Fun Bunch
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And in 100 years, what you now accept as fact will no longer be verified by 'the science' of the day.
No matter what you tell him he’s going to say this^ so it’s pointless to argue.
Posted on 7/2/18 at 2:53 pm to 1BamaRTR
he is basically arguing for the God of Gaps, which is quickly shrinking by the day
Posted on 7/2/18 at 2:54 pm to RobbBobb
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now explain how you can recognize how genetics differs from one being created, or as a natural process.
...what?
I truly do not understand what you mean here. Can you elaborate? Not being sarcastic at all.
Posted on 7/2/18 at 2:59 pm to Fun Bunch
If there was a creator, and you have all the science at your fingertips that you have today, what specific things defined in the entirety of genetics can you say proves that a species wasnt created so as to adapt or evolve, as opposed to it being a random act?
Posted on 7/2/18 at 3:01 pm to RobbBobb
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If there was a creator, and you have all the science at your fingertips that you have today, what specific things defined in the entirety of genetics can you say proves that a species wasnt created so as to adapt or evolve, as opposed to it being a random act?
The theory of evolution does not attempt to explain creation.
This post was edited on 7/2/18 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 7/2/18 at 3:02 pm to RobbBobb
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If there was a creator, and you have all the science at your fingertips that you have today, what specific things defined in the entirety of genetics can you say proves that a species wasnt created so as to adapt or evolve, as opposed to it being a random act?
You're now confusing evolution with abiogenesis.
Posted on 7/2/18 at 3:03 pm to RobbBobb
Btw many Catholics believe in evolution
Posted on 7/2/18 at 3:12 pm to Salmon
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You're now confusing evolution with abiogenesis.
No actually thats the point I was trying to make
OP claimed that if there was a God, how do you have other species. My point is that if God created 2 people, or somehow 2 people formed through the process of evolution you would still have the exact same scientific knowledge that we have today.
The differences in skin color, height, language, religions, governments, etc would still exist from either starting point. Including other species of humans. Because its all the same life materials, from the same geographic locations, adapting to various and random natural events to get us where we are today
So its a matter of faith, in which method of origin you accept. The scientific details wouldn't have changed much, if at all
Posted on 7/2/18 at 3:21 pm to RobbBobb
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OP claimed that if there was a God, how do you have other species. My point is that if God created 2 people, or somehow 2 people formed through the process of evolution you would still have the exact same scientific knowledge that we have today.
The differences in skin color, height, language, religions, governments, etc would still exist from either starting point. Including other species of humans. Because its all the same life materials, from the same geographic locations, adapting to various and random natural events to get us where we are today
So its a matter of faith, in which method of origin you accept. The scientific details wouldn't have changed much, if at all
This is complete nonsense.
Why would we have vestigial organs? Wisdom teeth? Why would we have a fused chromosome? How would you explain endogenous retroviruses?
Posted on 7/2/18 at 3:24 pm to Fun Bunch
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This is complete nonsense.
I'm hoping he's just tying to cloud the argument at this point.
Posted on 7/2/18 at 3:29 pm to RobbBobb
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I notice you left off 'micro'
Because the only people who attempt to differentiate between micro and macro evolution are creationists. The term is meaningless outside of those circles.
It's like suggesting there is micro and macro erosion.
No...it's all erosion...the only difference is DEEP TIME.
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