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re: Disturbing details emerge in murder charge for Virginia Tech football player

Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:26 pm to
Posted by rexorotten
Missouri
Member since Oct 2013
3923 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:26 pm to
What if Smith identified as a woman? Have they checked his email signature to see if he uses she/her pronouns?
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:26 pm to
Someone mentioned the VT sub. Here’s the comment they’re probably referring to. There’s others but this is the most informative:

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From a Blacksburg townie — I would like to offer some insight. Jerry Smith, an openly gay man (nothing wrong with that), has been fired from local establishments for sexually harassing young men. I am a credible source, as I was a coworker at said previous establishment. Before this event took place, it was widely rumored that Jerry had been slipping drugs into students drinks at the local bar he worked at called El Centro Taco Bar. Not to speak ill of the dead, but stating facts, Jerry had a reputation as a predator. Knowing this information about the victim, it truly makes me curious as to what exactly occurred on the night of June 1st. El Centro, where Jerry was employed, has a very bad reputation in terms of violating ABC laws, not following CDC guidelines during the COVID pandemic, and for the past 8 months has been a hot spot for roofies. Additionally, rapes and other assaults have been reported at this location as well. With all of this, El Centro has never lost their ABC license, or faced any consequences that I am aware of. It makes you wonder, how are they getting by with all of this misconduct? Rumor has it, Jerry had ties within the Blacksburg Police Department. With this knowledge (understandably, speculation), I wonder how this investigation will be handled and if what truly happened June 1st will come to light. Regardless of what Jerry Smith may have been into, murder is a cruel fate and I am not saying he “deserved” what happened to him. But I just wanted to share the information I have of the victim prior to the incident, as I feel like it is a crucial piece of this investigation.
Posted by Comic_Tiger
Member since Jul 2020
1277 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:27 pm to
You punch your right hand in
You punch the tranny out
You punch your left hand in and you knock their teeth all out
You're a Hokie going to the pokey and you turn yourself in
That's what a hate crime is all about
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98876 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:29 pm to
Justified.

Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13461 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:29 pm to
I think it's an overcharge honestly.

That is a heat of the moment total mindfrick and the guy felt he was sexually violated, lost it, and snapped. He didn't know the dude would die either, despite his injuries. Temporary insanity or something. I bet he gets manslaughter or something and gets 10 years tops.

That is so fricked up.

I guess the reason for the charge is because he didn't call for help, but I mean, I can't blame him for beating the guy up. I would. He just should've stopped after a few punches.

I hate to think what I'd do in that situation. I'd snap too.
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10207 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:29 pm to
This happened in an Eazy-E song
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
29118 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:30 pm to
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Et tu, Etute?


Holy frick well played. I haven't stopped laughing.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54140 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:30 pm to
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CatfishJohn
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I think it's an overcharge honestly.

name checks out
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:31 pm to
Etute: "I'll give you 20 minutes to stop that."
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57708 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:31 pm to
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That is a heat of the moment total mindfrick and the guy felt he was sexually violated, lost it, and snapped. He didn't know the dude would die either, despite his injuries.


Hate to tell you fricknuts, punching and kicking someone in the head over and over and leaving them choking on their own blood is leaving someone for dead. This guy knew exactly what he was doing and didn’t give a frick. It’s called having no respect for human life.
This post was edited on 6/9/21 at 3:32 pm
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
142047 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:33 pm to
Well, I'd left home just a week before
And I'd never ever kissed a woman before
But Angie smiled and took me by the hand
And said "Dear boy, I'm gonna make you a man"
Well, I'm not the world's most masculine man
But I know what I am and I'm glad
I'm a man
And so is Angie
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13461 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:35 pm to
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Hate to tell you fricknuts, punching and kicking someone in the head over and over and leaving them choking on their own blood is leaving someone for dead. This guy knew exactly what he was doing and didn’t give a frick. It’s called having no respect for human life.



Beating someone up in a bar fight and kicking them in the head and them dying usually results in a manslaughter charge.

This guy was sexually violated (twice) and lost his shite. I bet the charges get reduced. Isn't there a temporary insanity defense that could work here to at least encourage the DA to lower charges? Not to mention locals saying he was a sexual predator.

Thanks for calling me fricknuts I guess? I don't know why you're mad at me.
This post was edited on 6/9/21 at 3:37 pm
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13461 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:36 pm to
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name checks out



You people clearly don't listen to the Grateful Dead...

Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162231 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:36 pm to
What's rather interesting is earlier this year a law was passed (possibly in Virginia I think) that outlawed using "tranny shock" or something of that nature as a defense for murder.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71426 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:36 pm to
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That's the definition of a hate crime.



If he was mislead into sex, in a lot of states that's considered a form of sexual assault. How would that affect the hate crime?
Posted by paperwasp
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Member since Sep 2014
23153 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:36 pm to
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Additionally, rapes and other assaults have been reported at this location as well. With all of this, El Centro has never lost their ABC license, or faced any consequences that I am aware of. It makes you wonder, how are they getting by with all of this misconduct? Rumor has it, Jerry had ties within the Blacksburg Police Department.

Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13461 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:37 pm to
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If he was mislead into sex, in a lot of states that's considered a form of sexual assault.


Exactly.

Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
38918 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:37 pm to
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At least he won’t be the most murderous student in Va. Tech history.


Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:42 pm to
Virginia is so fricking cucked. Robert E. Lee would roll over in whatever grave they've moved him to this week if he could see his old home.
Posted by 50407Tiger
Member since Oct 2019
1227 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:43 pm to
Yeah go with all this information in the investigation....

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I am a credible source, as I was a coworker at said previous establishment. Before this event took place, it was widely rumored


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Not to speak ill of the dead, but stating facts


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I was a coworker at said previous establishment.

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not following CDC guidelines during the COVID pandemic


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Rumor has it


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(understandably, speculation), I wonder how this investigation will be handled


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I feel like it is a crucial piece of this investigation.
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