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re: Disgusting, racist picture of publicly available images (do not open unless racist)
Posted on 10/19/21 at 9:36 am to Korkstand
Posted on 10/19/21 at 9:36 am to Korkstand
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Well, would you like to talk about these correlations, or just suggest that black people are inherently violent?
i didn't suggest anything. i asked to draw your own conclusions. i'm sorry if this was the conclusion that you drew.
here are all 3 maps overlaid--same dots as before, same murder tags, and again the light areas are lower income, darker areas higher income
since it's poverty driven as you say, we should see about an equal amount of murders in the lighter shaded areas, no matter the race of the lighter shaded areas.
there aren't that many, but let's find some lightly shaded areas with little to no murders. here's a lightly shaded area around Old Jefferson. not seeing any tags here, but i am seeing mostly blue dots.
This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 9:59 am
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 9:36 am to Logician
here's another lightly shaded area with only a few murders (in the green area). these are mostly lsu students, and these 18-25 yr olds don't appear to be murdering each other. i hope you're not about to argue that 18-25 year olds aren't committing murder in the black community.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 9:36 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Definitely thought those were red, green, and blue tags and thought, holy shite we have a lot of Asian violence.
Same. I was like damn the yakuza have taken over for a minute.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 9:36 am to Epic Cajun
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Being born poor doesn't automatically make you part of ghetto culture either.
I grew up poor. Hell, every kid in the neighborhood except one got a degree, and the other is an electrician with his own business.
Its not poverty. Its your culture. There's not a damn thing "White saviorism" can do about it.
This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 9:38 am
Posted on 10/19/21 at 9:37 am to Epic Cajun
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And the largest issue is ghetto culture. This isn't about race at all, being born a certain race doesn't make you act in any sort of manner. Being born poor doesn't automatically make you part of ghetto culture either.
It absolutely is a cultural issue but people try to tap dance around admitting it. Black kids are born into single parent homes at 70-75% rates. Young black males commit violent crimes at 7x the rate of other races. There are plenty of poor whites and Hispanics in the US too.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 9:38 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Its not poverty. Its your culture.
This is the ugly truth.
You can be poor, but not be a law breaker, wife beater, dead beat, etc. My mom worked at a fast food restaurant, but our house was clean, we were disciplined, and taught to be good citizens.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 9:40 am to kywildcatfanone
It all comes down to the (purposeful) destruction of the black family.
Started in the 60's and as long as they keep voting Democrat, nothing will ever change for them.
Started in the 60's and as long as they keep voting Democrat, nothing will ever change for them.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 9:42 am to RogerTheShrubber
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It all comes down to the (purposeful) destruction of the black family.
Started in the 60's and as long as they keep voting Democrat, nothing will ever change for them.
It did start with the black families, but now affects all citizens. I think I read a while back that less than 50% of couples get married now, and 50% of those relationships end in separation. 75% have kids that are now impacted by that.
Ongoing destruction of society.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 9:44 am to kywildcatfanone
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It did start with the black families, but now affects all citizens. I think I read a while back that less than 50% of couples get married now, and 50% of those relationships end in separation. 75% have kids that are now impacted by that.
Ongoing destruction of society.
Correct. It spreads like cancer.
Single parent homes are the biggest curse on American taxpayers.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 9:48 am to fallguy_1978
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There are plenty of poor whites and Hispanics in the US too.
We declared war on them too.
Inflation
Importing millions of uneducated illegals
Higher min wage (barrier to entry)
This is how you systematically create a peasant class.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 9:48 am to Oilfieldbiology
quote:Maybe "access" wasn't the right word. Do you not think there is a difference in what information poor vs rich kids receive, in both quantity and quality?
What information do poor kids not have access too?
quote:Some kids get over that hump and break the cycle just by having reliable transportation to hold a job.
Maybe. But poor kids still have homework, play sports, and have the opportunity to work throughout junior and high school.
quote:Again I don't know a single person who believes this. I would just like to see less crime and more productivity.
This is naive at best and down right dishonest and disingenuous at worst. You know good and well that this country won’t be “equitable” until there are equal outcomes.
quote:I'm not pushing for any government control, nor am I pushing for equal outcomes. I'm not even really pushing for equal opportunity because that can never happen. The only thing I'm saying is that focusing on skin color (or I guess "culture" is the new term) as the root cause of problems is not productive, and we should instead recognize that most of society's problems are rooted in poverty. Throwing money at it doesn't work, but I think we should talk about the cycle of feedback that perpetuates poverty and ways to break it. "Be better" doesn't work when there is a lack of positive role models.
Every child is afforded the opportunity to attend school, to work, to play sports, and to improve himself. There is equal opportunity in this country, now the outcomes aren’t equal so more government control is being pushed.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 9:48 am to Logician
last one
here's a lightly shaded, lower income area with a very mixed population of black and latino. although low income, this area also has more family oriented neighborhoods like Elvin and Old Heritage (racist name, btw) as well as poor-as-dirt college renters.
why isn't this area littered with tags? is it because there is more of a focus on family here?
nah, that couldn't be a factor.
here's a lightly shaded, lower income area with a very mixed population of black and latino. although low income, this area also has more family oriented neighborhoods like Elvin and Old Heritage (racist name, btw) as well as poor-as-dirt college renters.
why isn't this area littered with tags? is it because there is more of a focus on family here?
nah, that couldn't be a factor.
This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 9:50 am
Posted on 10/19/21 at 9:49 am to Korkstand
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(or I guess "culture" is the new term)
We have been saying this for 50 years. You just don't want to hear it.
Its not race, its never been race, its culture. But "culture" doesn't support communism.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 9:52 am to beerJeep
quote:What are you talking about?
It’s honestly shocking that someone who would be dead if not for a gang banging thugs gun jamming would still be so woke and defend the very culture that nearly killed him.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 9:58 am to Korkstand
aren’t you the dude thats house was invaded, friend shot, and the thugs gun jammed when he tried to shoot you?
or is that another poster?
or is that another poster?
Posted on 10/19/21 at 9:59 am to beerJeep
That's Corkfather.
I doubt he would be in here defending violent thugs..
I doubt he would be in here defending violent thugs..
Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:00 am to Logician
quote:You overlaid race with murder. You only did income once asked. It's obvious what you suggested.
i didn't suggest anything. i asked to draw your own conclusions. i'm sorry if this was the conclusion that you drew.
quote:Is that not what you see on a roughly per capita basis?
since it's poverty driven as you say, we should see about an equal amount of murders in the lighter shaded areas, no matter the race of the lighter shaded areas.
quote:Same story with green dots in the northeast.
there aren't that many, but let's find some lightly shaded areas with little to no murders. here's a lightly shaded area around Old Jefferson. not seeing any tags here, but i am seeing mostly blue dots.
What is it you're not suggesting again?
Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:01 am to beerJeep
quote:Definitely another poster.
aren’t you the dude thats house was invaded, friend shot, and the thugs gun jammed when he tried to shoot you?
or is that another poster?
Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:01 am to RogerTheShrubber
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That's Corkfather.
damn korkstand corkfather its all the same to me dammit!!! quote:
I doubt he would be in here defending violent thugs
hence my confusion. i was like wait what?
Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:03 am to Korkstand
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The only thing I'm saying is that focusing on skin color (or I guess "culture" is the new term) as the root cause of problems is not productive
Nor is it correct. It’s a stupid, intellectually lazy argument.
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and we should instead recognize that most of society's problems are rooted in poverty.
Poverty is caused by poor personal decisions. You improve these decisions, poverty lessens. It should be fall to the individuals to make these improvements.
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Throwing money at it doesn't work, but I think we should talk about the cycle of feedback that perpetuates poverty and ways to break it.
The cycle is bad decisions financially rewarded by government and excused by society in general because we just want to give people love as opposed holding them accountable for their own decisions.
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Be better" doesn't work when there is a lack of positive role models.
So hold up the role models. They exist. They are there. Highlight them
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