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re: Dirty Shirts, Nuns, Pirates, and Old Hickory: The Battle of New Orleans

Posted on 1/12/25 at 3:20 pm to
Posted by ronricks
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 3:20 pm to
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You have the all time badass American Andrew Jackson


Posted by tide06
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 3:30 pm to
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It should be noted how HATED Jackson during the time between his arrival in New Orleans and the battle. He was a most unpopular person when he declared Martial Law ahead of the impending battle. Funny in retrospect he saved their lives and likely more.

Jackson never worried much about people’s feelings. He’s also not exactly known for ingratiating himself with elites whether in Louisiana, Tennessee or Washington DC.

It probably didn’t help that he was half dead riding into New Orleans from Mobile with a terrible sickness so he apparently looked like a homeless skeleton by the time he got there, but ultimately the combination of his steel backbone and the resourcefulness of the locals accomplished something the US couldn’t anywhere else in the war of 1812: defeat a well supplied British field army.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 7:56 pm to
No doubt, I agree. And the Brits thought NOLA was going to be easy pickins.
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 8:49 pm to
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No doubt, I agree. And the Brits thought NOLA was going to be easy pickins.


They did. They had a tendency to be very arrogant. After all, they sent the Duke of Wellington's right hand man and many of the well equipped troops that had beaten Napoleon to grab it. Instead, Packenham went home in a rum barrel.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 9:38 pm to
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Instead, Packenham went home in a rum barrel.


Dayuuuuuum!

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Packenham suffered a wound to his left knee where he had just been hit by flack from an artillery shell, and immediately after received the fatal bullet in the chest from Henry Hunter’s rifle. After Packenham fell, the British Army disintegrated and retreated. This was the final major battle of the War of 1812.

General Packenham hated America and Americans and had made his officers promise that if he were killed, they would take his body back to England for burial. The story is told that they pressed his body into a half-filled barrel of rum to preserve him for the long trip back to England. A major storm at sea delayed the return making food, water, and other supplies scarce. Rum was severely rationed. One sailor, crawling around in the hold of the ship, found what he thought was a full barrel of rum. As the word leaked out several shipmates consumed the rum remaining in the barrel. When Packenham’s body began to stink, they found out what they had done, and many became sickened. For many years there was a particular type of Jamaican Rum that was known as “Packenham Rum.”

General Packenham was known to be a surly and unfriendly sort. It was reported that at his funeral one of his relatives stated that, “The General returned in better spirits than when he left.”




Read the whole thing here. https://jacobhuntertrust.org/family-stories-legends-and-lore-2/war-of-1812-henry-hunter-the-death-of-british-general-sir-edward-michael-packenham/
This post was edited on 1/12/25 at 9:47 pm
Posted by lakeviewtiger
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 9:50 pm to
My Great Great Great Great Grandfather, Daniel Burks was a drummer (at 7 years old). He was captured in brought aboard Pakenham’s ship. Then Pakenham was killed and he observed them putting the body in rum casks for preservation . He remained on the ship until it was about to return to England. He said the redcoats would “tap the admiral” for a drink.

Also, he and his family were traveling the Mississippi River when the great Mississippi Valley earthquake occurred in 1811. The river flowed backwards and the river bed spewed centuries worth of debris and fallen trees.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 10:11 pm to
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Also, he and his family were traveling the Mississippi River when the great Mississippi Valley earthquake occurred in 1811. The river flowed backwards and the river bed spewed centuries worth of debris and fallen trees.

I too had riverboat family that left their journals with accounts of what happened in Memphis when the New Madrid fault gave way ... and thus formed Reelfoot Lake. They also wrote of geysers of dry sand shooting up from their fields 100' into the sky. It must have been a thing to behold.

Thank you for sharing your family's accounts of both.

Posted by lakeviewtiger
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 12:09 pm to
I appreciate that. Also, scary to think about what that type of earthquake would do today.

My dad was a civil engineer and he would explain that the Mississippi River Basin routinely has tremors, etc. But, given that the our soil / terra firma is essentially pudding, we don’t really feel it.
Posted by UpInSmokeDownDaBayou
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 1:48 pm to
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He’s also not exactly known for ingratiating himself with elites whether in Louisiana, Tennessee or Washington DC.



Which is rich, because his name and "Jackson-men" are ALL OVER Louisiana elections leading up to the Civil War. I'm three chapter into Cheathem's A Perfect War of Politics and you can't go a page without his name coming up as a descriptor of a person or political faction.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 1:53 pm to
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At one point in my life, I had that on 45....
Yep, had it on a 45 when I was a kid. Also the theme song to SWAT.

Posted by Zephyrius
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Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 1:57 pm to
My 4th Great Grandfather led a militia in the Battle of New Orleans which included free men of color.

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Pitot's volunteer militia, including the free men of color, joined other units of free men of color, as well as numerous slaves, who were crucial to the defeat of the British invasion under the unified command of General Andrew Jackson.


Prior to that he was the first appointed mayor of New Orleans by Governor Claiborne when New Orleans came under the US flag.

James(Jacque) Pitot

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