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re: Diesel mechanic help with lawnmower sounding like it’s starving for fuel when in a bind.

Posted on 11/20/23 at 3:53 pm to
Posted by Tampa Tiger
Fl.
Member since Nov 2006
667 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 3:53 pm to
Did you change the fuel filter
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50658 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 3:59 pm to
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Just replace the carb while you’re at it. It’s fairly cheap and easy


This is going about how I expected to be honest.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20648 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 4:00 pm to
That's an interesting looking mower, I've never seen a 3 wheeled version like that before not to mention diesel. I'm curious why they were diesel and not gas? I don't have a damn thing for help sorry. I would check your fuel lines though I've had connections go loose and bad lines before and it seems like a carb (I know not on diesel) or fuel supply issue.

Posted by Penske File
Member since Jul 2019
213 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 4:07 pm to
Can you turn your blades by hand? Are they too tight against the bed knife. Please don’t smash your fingers. Do your rollers move freely?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50658 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 4:08 pm to
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I'm curious why they were diesel and not gas?


Diesel isn't that uncommon on the larger commercial type mowers and garden tractors from John Deere.
This post was edited on 11/20/23 at 4:09 pm
Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
9497 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 5:38 pm to
Does it do this when you first start it or after it has ran for awhile? That model is notorious for having a clogged fuel cap vent. That would only normally show up after running for a little bit. You could remove the cap while it is running just to check though.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48887 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 5:51 pm to
I have a Kubota ZD1211 and the same problem. If or when you change the fuel filters you have to bleed them and be sure to get all air out of the lines. Mine is in the ignition just to run the fuel pump not turn the motor over. Mine has 2 inline filters and one filter just above the fuel pump.

It can be the pump too so disconnect the line at the pump and turn ignition to see if it is pumping fuel.
Posted by sleepytime
Member since Feb 2014
3598 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 5:55 pm to
Put a load on it by driving up a hill or pulling your truck down the driveway.

If it doesn't bog down, there's something binding up between the engine and the blades.

If it does bog down, it's fuel related as others have stayed.
Posted by brucevilanch
Fort Worth, Tejas
Member since May 2011
24334 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 5:56 pm to
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didn't know they made diesel powered lawnmowers


I rode a kubota diesel mower one time and it felt like you could mow down a goddamn jungle with it.
Posted by shoelessjoe
Member since Jul 2006
9971 posts
Posted on 11/20/23 at 7:30 pm to
It’s definitely fuel related. I drove it next door to park it out of the weather and it was like it was in low throttle but trying to move wide open if you understand what I’m saying. The throttle wouldn’t give me enough to get rpms up but could still go about 3-4 mph. Causing it to almost die because the fuel was not available. May be fuel lines collapsed
Posted by shoelessjoe
Member since Jul 2006
9971 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 6:24 pm to
Tonight I noticed some black smoke coming out of exhaust. Does this sound like it could be clogged injectors or injector pump? It’s a 2005 model and has only 1100 hours on it. Could it be that it has carbon build up? Just hoping the engine isn’t going bad.
This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 6:36 pm
Posted by boot
Member since Oct 2014
2889 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 7:22 pm to
Grasshopper makes a very good diesel mower
Posted by lsunatchamp
Member since Feb 2009
2025 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 7:30 pm to
find where the lift pump is. Take the outlet line off and then crank the engine. Fuel should shoot out of the pump. IDK on JD's but on a Detroit Diesel 60 motor its around 50 PSI which makes it shoot all the way to the back of the truck. If it doesn't shoot out you know the problem is either the pump or from the fuel tanks to the pump. If it does shoot out you know its between the pump and injectors. Good Luck.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 7:32 pm to
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Does this sound like it could be clogged injectors or injector pump?


Maybe but I doubt it. To properly sort this out you need to check fuel pressure, supply pressure, return pressure, manifold pressure if it has a turbo...

I assume that you've already verified that the throttle lever is fully traveling, and is fully moving the actuator on the fuel pump?
Posted by lsunatchamp
Member since Feb 2009
2025 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 7:33 pm to
Black smoke is too rich of a fuel mixture. Not enough air or too much fuel, usually caused by a leaking injector.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30485 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 7:48 pm to
I don’t know shite about this topic but am interested to find out what was wrong with it.
Posted by Harahan Boy
Harahan LA
Member since Feb 2022
181 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 7:57 pm to
Diesel fuel absorbs water easily. It may have become contaminated. Try known fresh diesel fuel.
Posted by lsunatchamp
Member since Feb 2009
2025 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:02 pm to
You may also be losing compression in a cylinder causing it to lose power. There are a few ways to test that. I always just use a scope and get a reading on the amperage draw coming off the main battery while cranking. You can tell if one cylinder isnt getting compression that way. This would be the next step if you cant find a fault in the fuel
Posted by sleepytime
Member since Feb 2014
3598 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:28 pm to
Verify you have good fuel flow to the injector pump.
Grab a wrench and bleed the injectors, there's lots of tutorials online if needed. It's really easy to do.

Look at what's coming out each injector when you bleed it.
Air- keep it open until fuel starts coming out without air bubbles.
Nothing- injector pump issue
Fuel- the injector pump is working properly. Could be the injector or something in the engine.
White liquid- water contamination. I've had this happen a few times and had to use a polar solvent to like isopropyl alcohol to flush out the water contamination from the injector pump before it would run right. Be sure to disconnect the lines if you have to flush it and re-prime with diesel before reconnecting. You don't want much alcohol finding its way to the combustion chamber.
Posted by sparkinator
Lake Claiborne
Member since Dec 2007
4504 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:39 pm to
I’ve had loss of power issues several times on my kubota tractor. Every time it’s plugged fuel lines. Several times plugged in the tank. Pulled the line from the tank and barely a drip of fuel. I blew the line back to the tank and the fuel poured out the line

Next plug was between the bowl filter and the primary pump. Blew that line out and it ran like a champ.

I bought the tractor used and it had descent power. After I blew out the lines, the horsepower picked up considerably.

With a diesel, it’s almost always restricted diesel or air.

I run a diesel fuel additive now to prevent growth in the fuel tank.
This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 8:43 pm
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