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re: Did two children just die on Bluff Road in Ascension Parish?

Posted on 6/25/14 at 12:06 am to
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 12:06 am to
While driving on Bluff Road. Do y'all ever notice the kids fishing by the creek?

I have a feeling a mix of the driving not paying attention, speeding & the wet road played a role in this.

I didn't realize this at the time. But, I saw the green Nissan on a truckbed while getting off the interstate close dutchtown. Horrible scene.
This post was edited on 6/25/14 at 12:06 am
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 8:11 am to
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Well it's a traffic incident involving multiple deaths so I would imagine it will be looked into.


Really? You "imagine it will be looked into"?

You are terribly obtuse.

I guarantee you that "it will be looked into." Those phone records are going to be "looked into", and there's no "I would imagine" about it.
This post was edited on 6/25/14 at 8:13 am
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 8:16 am to
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Again, what is suspicious about this? It's a road with no shoulder, a sharp curve, and a high speed limit. I don't get how anyone that drives regularly could immediately interpret this as "suspicious" instead of another unobservant person behind the wheel.


everyone wants to blame texting for every accident....how did we have accidents before smart phones
Posted by Teufelhunden
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 8:21 am to
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a new subdivision is carved out every month.


No planned growth, just come in and build.

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what the heck do these parishes do with all of their money from the huge population influx


Political patronage in the form of jobs, engineering, and impact studies.
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 8:23 am to
It's pretty clear to anybody that drives around today that just about everybody is using their smartphones and driving at the same time.

We all know that this is never going to stop, and will only get worse.

The only thing we can do about it is to identify these folks when we can, and, try to make them suffer some penalty. If their texting and driving causes multiple deaths, then, that penalty should be appropriately severe.

Every case like this one demands full investigation, and, failure to ascertain whether a smartphone played a role in the tragedy is an inadequate investigation.

All I'm saying is: I hope that this tragedy is fully investigated. I'm not sure why those who like to drive and use their smartphones would be upset by my comments.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 8:25 am to
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This traffic case needs to be investigated to determine whether the vehicle operator was on her smartphone at the time of the accident.

It's a suspicious set of circumstances. That's obvious.


Why is it suspicious? This area has a history of accidents, and it had just rained. Why are you automatically on a witch hunt?
Posted by Redbone
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 8:32 am to
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This area has a history of accidents,


Are you sure about this. F.D. records don't show this area to be any worse than any other area in parish, maybe less problematic when the number of vehicles per day is considered.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 8:34 am to
I was just going off what people in this thread have been saying.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 8:42 am to
I am sure they will investigate to see if the driver was distracted or if it was just an accident. All I am saying is people love to automatically assume someone was texting when an accident like this happens...it may be the case but it most likely wasn't IMO.
Posted by djangochained
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 8:44 am to
What if the driver was not texting but looking a website or photos on their phone?

Will they still be able to determine if driver was looking at their phone ?
Posted by CorkSoaker
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 8:49 am to
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I am sure they will investigate to see if the driver was distracted or if it was just an accident. All I am saying is people love to automatically assume someone was texting when an accident like this happens...it may be the case but it most likely wasn't IMO.


What is the difference in assuming it "most likely wasn't" texting and assuming it was?
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 8:50 am to
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What if the driver was not texting but looking a website or photos on their phone?


Idk...what is she was playing with her radio, adjusting her a/c?

Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 8:57 am to
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What is the difference in assuming it "most likely wasn't" texting and assuming it was?


Well one assumption assumes exactly one specific scenario, where the other assumes an infinite amount of possibilities. I would say there is a pretty big difference there.
Posted by CorkSoaker
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 9:19 am to
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Well one assumption assumes exactly one specific scenario, where the other assumes an infinite amount of possibilities. I would say there is a pretty big difference there.


But to specifically say it probably wasn't texting is the same thing as assuming it probably was texting. Both are assumptions.
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 9:29 am to
Either the police or the attorney representing the deceased children will get those smartphone records, I assure all of you.

Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 9:33 am to
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But to specifically say it probably wasn't texting is the same thing as assuming it probably was texting.


Not really. Again, you are talking about assuming exactly one thing compared to assuming it was anything except once thing. One of those assumptions is much more reasonable than the other.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 9:33 am to
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Either the police or the attorney representing the deceased children will get those smartphone records, I assure all of you.



I'm fairly certain no one has argued against that.
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 9:38 am to
You never know. There seems to be a ton of emotion and irrationality going around in this thread.

I hope that the harmed family hires a good personal injury attorney to ensure a thorough investigation.

In all cases such as this one, the issue of whether smartphone usage was a contributing factor is very important.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 9:42 am to
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There seems to be a ton of emotion and irrationality going around in this thread


Sort of like you harping on texting while driving?

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I hope that the harmed family hires a good personal injury attorney to ensure a thorough investigation.


Yea, the scum sucking personal injury lawyer will make sure everything is fair.

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In all cases such as this one, the issue of whether smartphone usage was a contributing factor is very important.


Regardless, you have nothing other than a shot in the dark to be "suspicious" of texting and driving causing this accident. It is just as likely that the girl sneezed at an inopportune time. Better check the dash for snot, amirite?
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 10:03 am to
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But to specifically say it probably wasn't texting is the same thing as assuming it probably was texting. Both are assumptions.


What is more likely...texting caused the accident or all the other possible reasons someone can have an accident...wet roads, speeding, distracted by any other number of reasons, vehicle malfunction, intoxicated, stoned, sleepy, etc?
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