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re: Did the quarter get worse in recent years or am I just older?

Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:29 am to
Posted by Demshoes
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:29 am to
A lot of it is the lack of tourists. Makes it very depressing. During normal times, its a great place to walk around during the day and also fun at night so long as you stay on the beaten path.

Marigny was great too when things were normal.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:31 am to
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Carry on with this thread though...I’m sure it will be full of truth.



Could it be that as you reside there full time and have no other perspective, it’s as bad as the OP suggested but you fail to recognize it because you have become accustomed to it?

I have no dog in this hunt, so I’m not taking sides. But I find it odd that some of you who claim to be natives and residents seem unable to even agree that things are pretty bad there.

I’m wondering if it’s because you really don’t see what visitors see, or you just choose to defend your hometown blindly.
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:33 am to
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You had to leave the area around 1am. That’s when the quality of people began to change drastically.

Quality of people out after 1am tends to change drastically in any city anywhere.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:33 am to
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things are pretty bad there.



quarter has never been a family outing type place
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:34 am to
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it is sad to see what the city has evolved into.


What's sad, and most of the people who only come to town and hang on Bourbon St don't know this, but before this stupid virus came, Nola was better than it had been in at least 35 years.
Real estate was booming both with regular housing in the neighborhoods and apartments/condos. Restaurants/bars were still popping up all over and some were/are great additions.

Tourism was at an all time high.

Now I just don't have a good feeling about what is going to happen with the city. After Katrina the whole world showed the city love and major events came back quickly. Now there isn't going to be shite going on until next fall at the earliest and so much will be lost by then.
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:37 am to
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Could it be that as you reside there full time and have no other perspective, it’s as bad as the OP suggested but you fail to recognize it because you have become accustomed to it?


Wouldn’t someone living here be more qualified to comment on the current state of the city vs someone who came in from Prairieville for a night, saw homeless people and/or drunks in the quarter, and deemed it a 3rd world country?

Everyone who lives here knows the city is not perfect and that leadership is a joke.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:03 am to
Fair enough and good point.

Just wondering if the people who live there and get mad about the criticism are similar to people who have children and are oblivious to how ill mannered and annoying kids can be to those who don’t have children or aren’t around them often.

Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:14 am to
I’m sure it’s a mixture of both. I also think majority of NOLA residents fully acknowledge its shortcomings but accept them in order to live in a place that’s, normally, very fun to live in and different than every city in the country.

Like myself, for instance, I can’t stand Latoya, the entire city is run by incompetent people, crime is certainly higher than I’d like...but also, I know the areas to stay away from and I genuinely love the city. If I have to live in Louisiana, it’ll be here...for now at least.
Posted by chillygentilly
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:16 am to
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I have no dog in this hunt, so I’m not taking sides. But I find it odd that some of you who claim to be natives and residents seem unable to even agree that things are pretty bad there.

I’m wondering if it’s because you really don’t see what visitors see, or you just choose to defend your hometown blindly.


Things are bad here. I’m not debating that. Businesses and people are hanging on by a thread meanwhile our city leadership is focusing on hard-hitting issues like street renaming and who performs at New Year’s Rocking Eve.

My point is that, per usual, claims of New Orleans demise are generally exaggerated by posters who’s only point of reference is that one weekend they spent here or “family from NOLA that lives in Metairie”.

Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:46 am to
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My point is that, per usual, claims of New Orleans demise are generally exaggerated by posters who’s only point of reference is that one weekend they spent here or “family from NOLA that lives in Metairie”.


If you come for a weekend and it feels dangerous, do you think additional time spent would somehow change that sentiment?

My question is, if you're living in, say, Lakeview, or Mid-City, what is it that keeps you clinging to that Orleans Parish address? It's possible to live in Jefferson Parish and still be much closer to the CBD that anyone in any other US city people have heard of could ever dream of being. And yet somehow people attach a stigma to it.

This is unique to New Orleans. In Atlanta, no one in Dunwoody or North Druid Hills cares that they're not in Fulton County. They are paying a premium to be close to the city, and the amount of that premium does not go down at the county line. The opposite is probably true.
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 12:08 pm to
Well yeah, Atlanta metro area is like 4 to 5 x’s the population of New Orleans metro.

I can somewhat understand the appeal of Mid City as it’s similar to Uptown. I’ve never grasped the appeal of Lakeview. Home prices are still high, all the pitfalls Orleans Parish, roads are awful, and still 15 minutes to get to the good restaurants and bars.

Edit: it’s also still going to cost a premium to live in a good area of JP that’s convenient to downtown. The whole market is inflated.
This post was edited on 12/21/20 at 12:11 pm
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 12:13 pm to
It was disgusting this time of year two years ago. Basically an outdoor homeless shelter.
This post was edited on 12/21/20 at 12:41 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58727 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 12:32 pm to
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These people who think West St. Tammany is some paradise on Earth are just turds.
they’re almost as bad as the people who act like the woodlands, et al. is some kind of WASP paradise
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
87743 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 12:33 pm to
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like the woodlands, et al. is some kind of WASP paradise



Southlake FTW
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58727 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 12:36 pm to
Well yeah. Southlake is actually nice and not poor
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 12:36 pm to
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They almost bulldozed it many many year ago because it was so shite, so that should tell you something.
Nah..
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 4:47 pm to
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Dirt bikes just run and NOPD can’t chase due to consent decree.



Guess what Laterya's new Citizen's Brigade (or whatever it will be called) won't be bound by. Hint: it sounds a lot like "donsent cecree".
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 4:53 pm to
It hasn’t been the same since Takee Outee shut down.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60527 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 4:53 pm to
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My wife's family is all from Metarie, so we have been visiting NOLA for 10 years regularly. We would spend most of the time with family, but generally would swing down during the day to one of the restaurants there at least once a trip (yes I'm aware there are great restaurants in other parts of town, we go there too, etc etc).

We stopped coming for a few years after the wife's grandmother passed, but went to the Quarter in late 2019, as BLM was starting to gain strength.

Haven't been since, and probably won't again. I'm not sure if it was the fact we'd been away for a few years and I'm now in my 30s, but holy shite the place felt a lot more 3rd world than I remembered.

Is this just me? Am I the only one who thinks things there have gone down hill in a measurable level? I felt safer (and probably was) in central Mexico.

It is a hell hole. Not one redeemable thing. I am just glad it is so damn terrible my kids wont even want to party there.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 5:09 pm to
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Nah..

There was a plan that would have put an elevated expressway where Decatur St. is. This was considered pretty seriously in the 1960s.

Wikipedia, known for its 102.6% accuracy
This post was edited on 12/21/20 at 5:10 pm
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