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Posted on 12/27/24 at 5:47 am to Jim Rockford
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The Union Fleet was anchored in the river and would have bombarded the city. Once they passed the forts downriver there was no defense. There weren't even any organized Confederate troops in New Orleans proper. The mayor surrendered the city.
If you’re an uber nerd and read Sherman’s letters, he thought sure after war broke out that the real fighting would be to win the Mississippi.
That the south’s only chance at independence would be to keep control of the lower part of the river. It was so obvious to him he figured it would be obvious to the south.
Turns out he was right, but the south’s main leadership never figured it out.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 5:52 am to IT_Dawg
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protect their way of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness from the Union.
Anything else?
Posted on 12/27/24 at 7:23 am to Woolfpack
The Battle for New Orleans took place south of the city at Ft Jackson and St Philip. Once Farragut got past those forts New Orleans became indefensible. The battle was in April of 1862, so it was spring and the water level was high.
Once Farragut got to New Orleans all he would have to do is train his cannons on the levels and game over.
Once Farragut got to New Orleans all he would have to do is train his cannons on the levels and game over.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 7:26 am to Sus-Scrofa
E. A. Pollard slammed the leadership over neglecting New Orleans in his book
Posted on 12/27/24 at 7:37 am to red sox fan 13
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Isn’t the song he’s referencing about the War of 1812
Yes. The verse "Old Hickory said we could take 'em by surprise if we didn't fire our muskets till we looked 'em in the eyes" confirms it's about the War of 1812.
But a sizable percentage of posters here are idiots and likely know nothing about American history besides the garbage put forth by the MSM.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 9:03 am to samson73103
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Yes. The verse "Old Hickory said we could take 'em by surprise if we didn't fire our muskets till we looked 'em in the eyes" confirms it's about the War of 1812.
True but you didn't to go that far when the opening line is "In 1814 we took a little trip along with Col Jackson down the mighty Missispp"
Posted on 12/27/24 at 9:37 am to wileyjones
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When we ran out of bullets we powdered an alligator’s behind, when we lit it off the gator lost his mind
wrong war
Posted on 12/27/24 at 9:42 am to Woolfpack
I would have given up NOLA without a shot after consulting with my psychic who would have predicted the Landrieu regime.
This post was edited on 12/27/24 at 9:49 am
Posted on 12/27/24 at 10:26 am to Broski
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Always fascinates me the amount of TD posters that say "we" when referring to the Confederacy.
We ARE the Confederacy, dumbass
Posted on 12/27/24 at 10:30 am to Sus-Scrofa
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That the south’s only chance at independence would be to keep control of the lower part of the river. It was so obvious to him he figured it would be obvious to the south.
Turns out he was right, but the south’s main leadership never figured it out.
It was obvious to Jefferson Davis but the man was too obsessed with holding onto EVERYTHING and not just the strategic points on the map. Also, when Southern leadership finally recognized the danger they were in Lee convinced them to let him invade Pennsylvania rather than sending soldiers to fight off Grant's campaign against Vicksburg.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 10:36 am to Jim Rockford
Nola was the third largest city in the country with one of the most important ports in the world at the time. Neither side wanted to see it destroyed.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 11:00 am to Tall Tiger
Yeah, if you’re devoting the defense of your city at the edge of your city , whether you win or lose you won’t have much of a city left.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 11:27 am to samson73103
first line starts with "In 1814...". That pretty much sums it up.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 11:30 am to wileyjones
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When we ran out of bullets we powdered an alligator’s behind, when we lit it off the gator lost his mind
Wrong war
Posted on 12/27/24 at 11:35 am to High C
quote:yeah that’s why the first couple lines talks about fighting the British
Wrong war
confederate threads really get y’all going on your high horses around here
Posted on 12/27/24 at 3:40 pm to udtiger
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Dumbass commanders did not expect an attack from the Gulf/up the river, but from the north.
Which is stupid. In order to threaten the south's largest and 2nd important city from the south the USA only needed to pass the 2 forts and steam 70 miles up river. However, to attack it from the the north the USA would have to fight past Columbus Ky, Island No 10, Fort Pillow, and Vicksburg. Jefferson Davis, Judah Benjamin, George W. Randolph, and Stephen Mallory should have been impeached and hung by the Confederate States government for that choice.
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Once Farragut broke past Fort Phillip and Jackson, the Confederates abandoned defense of the city.
That is because the river was up and the guns on the US ships were floating higher than the few batteries on the Chalmette defenses. It would have been suicide to try and defend the city.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 4:33 pm to WeeWee
makes one wonder.
Why didnt the scoundrels take NO from the start?
Why didnt the scoundrels take NO from the start?
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