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re: Did "institutional racism" cause/contribute to Dylann Roof's murdering blacks?

Posted on 6/22/15 at 12:45 pm to
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 12:45 pm to
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Your party attracts the overwhelming majority of white racists.


What does the other party attract? You want to focus on one why not be honest about the other.

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I'm white by the way so, you know, I'm one of the good guys right!


I'm white and unlike some other races I don't base people being "one of the good guys" based on the fact that they are the same race as I am.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
36824 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 12:46 pm to
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And no, our underlying ideology is not oppressing minorities. It involves promotion of personal responsibility, economic liberty (increasingly, social liberty) and reduced government interference.


I'm libertarian so I agree with many conservative platforms. Unfortunately I don't think the GOP shares those same views anymore.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70183 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 12:47 pm to
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our underlying ideology is not oppressing minorities. It involves promotion of personal responsibility, economic liberty (increasingly, social liberty) and reduced government interference.


amen
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
36824 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 12:49 pm to
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What does the other party attract? You want to focus on one why not be honest about the other.


We were discussing the Charleston douche bag and how he quoted in his manifesto a notorious white supremacist who just donated several thousand dollars to GOP candidates. If you want to discuss unsavory dems, of which I'm sure there are many, then feel free to start another thread.

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'm white and unlike some other races I don't base people being "one of the good guys" based on the fact that they are the same race as I am.


You are white and you have a piss poor sarcasm gauge.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 12:49 pm to
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I'm libertarian so I agree with many conservative platforms. Unfortunately I don't think the GOP shares those same views anymore.



The typical slight to the GOP (from a libertarian perspective) is that the GOP is too large government minded.

If there is a libertarian train of thought that the GOP favors holding back minorities, I certainly haven't heard it.
Posted by KajunGator
Lake Arthur, LA
Member since May 2011
7685 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 12:50 pm to
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I'm guessing plenty of racists favor low taxes and reducing government bloat, but anyone trying to connect that to white supremacy is a fricking hack.


I would imagine most racists are on the govt teet and are receiving food stamps or welfare so I'd bet you are wrong.


Which racists are you referring to...the white ones or the black ones?
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 12:53 pm to
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Unfortunately I don't think the GOP shares those same views anymore.


I don't emphatically portray myself as republican because of the state of the party and some of the idiots that are put up there as the face. I also have slightly less conservative social views. But it has nothing whatsoever to do with the party being racist. The racist cry is such a cheap and easy (and successful) attack from the left.

If you do not agree with something that is agreed upon by a majority of minorities, then you do not agree with minorities, then you are a racist. Even if the thing you do not agree with has nothing to do with race, you are against minorities in your viewpoint and are now racist. Doesn't matter what the argument, this is part of the democratic platform. Welfare, voter id, immigration. None of these are explicitly about race, but they are quickly turned into racist arguments.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70183 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 12:55 pm to
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We were discussing the Charleston douche bag and how he quoted in his manifesto a notorious white supremacist who just donated several thousand dollars to GOP candidates. If you want to discuss unsavory dems, of which I'm sure there are many, then feel free to start another thread.


and you took that and generalized it into being a party that is backed by racists.

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You are white and you have a piss poor sarcasm gauge.


I have a great sense of detecting sarcasm...but sometimes I am not sure if the poster is being sarcastic or just an idiot...still not sure
Posted by KajunGator
Lake Arthur, LA
Member since May 2011
7685 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 12:55 pm to
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"Not all GOP supporters are racists, but all racists support the GOP."


If this were true....Obama would never have been elected
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 12:56 pm to
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I guarantee if they analyzed all these shooters they would find a correlation in regards to below average dick size. Further correlate this to amount of tang they are getting/not getting and you have the root of the problem.
I guarantee if any of the mass shooters were getting laid they would never have considered doing what they did.


Is that why black people shoot, rob and rape more people per race than any other?

Now your name is needle dick
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 1:00 pm to
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BBC nor anything else made him do what he did


never underestimate the butthurt that ensues when you find out your girl is getting that black snake moan.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
36824 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 1:09 pm to
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If there is a libertarian train of thought that the GOP favors holding back minorities, I certainly haven't heard it.


I personally see dem policies as being most disadvantageous to minorities. I think what holds minorities back from the GOP is the perception that they are pro-white...which maybe is not as true as saying the GOP is pro-status quo. To a minority I'd say thats a distinction without a difference.
Associations with notorious white supremacists will kill the GOP in this election and for the foreseeable future. That is my opinion and you can take it for what its worth. Fair or unfair, right or wrong, nobody will want to vote for the same party as the racists. In our society today, "racist" is about as deplorable as you can get.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
12171 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 1:29 pm to
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Didn't strike me as stupid at all. Did you read the manifesto? Filled with hate and probably drugs/mental problems, but lets call a spade a spade. Kid wasn't stupid.


So you read his "manifesto" yet didn't conclude that he was stupid? I hate to break the news to you but that might say more about you than anything the white trash moron was trying to say on his pseudo-political website.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87755 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 1:37 pm to
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Associations with notorious white supremacists will kill the GOP in this election and for the foreseeable future. That is my opinion and you can take it for what its worth. Fair or unfair, right or wrong, nobody will want to vote for the same party as the racists. In our society today, "racist" is about as deplorable as you can get.



If there were real associations I might agree with you. Someone sending a check and you sending it back when you find out who they are is not an association I think will matter in this election. I agree with you regarding the stigma of being labeled as racist. However, those who drive the stigma (media, far left) are not necessarily the same groups that will determine 2016.
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