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re: Derek Chauvin's defense....

Posted on 5/31/20 at 11:56 pm to
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124694 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 11:56 pm to
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Nah. He ought to be a sacrificial lamb along with the other 3. Tough but we need to calm people down right now.


Yeah let’s appease the people tearing this country down and burning it down. Anything else we can do for them?
This post was edited on 5/31/20 at 11:57 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76191 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 11:56 pm to
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The guy was clearly subdued and not resisting at that point


And it will be hard to say he was still resisting when he was picked up off the ground dead.

He obviously stopped resisting at some point.
This post was edited on 5/31/20 at 11:57 pm
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
12795 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 11:56 pm to
He isn’t being convicted on murder if an unbiased jury is out there. You can’t prove intent.

You might be able to prove negligible homicide/involuntary manslaughter. In my opinion, that’s where prosecutors have to go with this.

But I’m not an attorney. I also know the charges will be more political than proper application.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
38419 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 11:57 pm to
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He isn’t being convicted on murder if an unbiased jury is out there. You can’t prove intent.



You don’t have to prove intent for murder 3
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
23535 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 11:58 pm to
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All hinges on what was happening before the event took place
yeah maybe on the Tigerdroppings.com Poliboard.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
44900 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:01 am to
Well, this thread is about his defense. You too stupid to follow along?
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73163 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:07 am to
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think there is a strong chance he walks free


You think the riots are bad now?


He has no defense. At. All
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
44900 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:08 am to
I agree on that point. But a good defense attorney will have enough to establish a strong case.
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
22312 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:08 am to
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People don’t want to hear it but he has reasonable defense


The barbarism we're seeing play out is the best defense in the world. You don't coddle a sick, rabid dog
This post was edited on 6/1/20 at 12:09 am
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30025 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:09 am to
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People don’t want to hear it but he has reasonable defense


The most difficult part of his action to explain away will be the ~3 minutes he held his position after the other officer found no pulse assuming that is fact.

He was also charged with 2nd degree manslaughter.

Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:09 am to
I know this, if he has a legit defense and is found not guilty, the shite we've seen for the last week or so will pale in comparison to the shite storm that will ensue after the verdict.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26268 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:12 am to
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Police cannot act until a crime has happened (in theory). If George had broken a law, and the cop was following procedure, then there is not much he can be charged with.


It's not going to help him that one of the other cops asked if they should turn him on his side and Chauvin told him "no" and that he was staying put. And that same cop then mentioned being worried about him having excited delirium (which in a small % of cases can lead to death). Again, the charged cop said "that's why we have him on his stomach." Also, after the cop checked for a pulse and found none, Chauvin still held his position on the guy's neck for another two minutes or so. Not good.
Posted by BayouFann
CenLa
Member since Jun 2012
7151 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:12 am to
You mf pussies are a real piece of scum work! Sad shite.
Posted by Newrow
Member since Oct 2017
946 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:14 am to
You’re an idiot.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
44900 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:15 am to
I agree on those points. Just looking from the defense attorneys POV.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
38936 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:16 am to
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I think there is a strong chance he walks free


He's not going to walk. But the edgy anti-cop lynch mob on here better be prepared that a 1st Degree Murder conviction may not happen. Manslaughter will most likely be the charge.

Jurors are human, too. Your potential jury pool nationwide is already tainted with these riots. The radical Left is going to dox these jurors (it's going to happen). After they receive direct and indirect threats to convict it doesn't matter what the facts are; they'll convict him of something.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
38419 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:19 am to
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1st Degree Murder conviction may not happen


They’re not charging him with that.
Posted by lgh
In your head
Member since Jan 2019
239 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:21 am to
WTF
Posted by lgh
In your head
Member since Jan 2019
239 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:23 am to
1st deg ain't happining, doubtful of 2nd
Posted by WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
in the transfer portal
Member since Dec 2009
2405 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:25 am to

I have read all of your posts in this thread.
Based on those posts, you don't seem to be very well informed.
Please tell me more about the continuum of force training that you have had and your experiences in applying it.
Maybe you have some experience in defending those that have applied the training they have received. I would definitely like to hear about that!

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