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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today

Posted on 4/19/21 at 8:25 am to
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 8:25 am to
So what happens today? Closing arguments?
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56554 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 8:33 am to
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100% guaranteed prosecution does the 9 mins of silence bs again


If I was the defense, I would play the 20 times Floyd says he can't breath while no one is touch him

then list his wrap sheet of his life...because it paints the full story of who Floyd was on that day...

which includes two overdoses in March...that required hospitalization to keep him alive

I would list the fact Floyd had a lot of counterfeit money

I would list the fact that Floyd would NOT be trusted by anyone in the court room to babysit their teenagers or home for a weekend...no-one would be a friend of Floyd's

He resisted arrest because that who Floyd was...he rebelled against the law

He had heart disease because he treated his body horribly...

then I would look at the juror, did you hear what Maxine said this weekend? Nod if you understand what I am saying?

If you are fearful of doing the right thing because of Maxine threatening you...

then nod your head...

nod your head if you're afraid to nod your head
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56554 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 8:33 am to
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However, I’m not sure that even qualifies as manslaughter.




my thoughts exactly...
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6966 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 8:43 am to
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So what happens today? Closing arguments?

Yep, and judge didn't put a time limit. Expected 1-2 hours each.
Posted by LSU2NO
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
1949 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 8:44 am to
Has anyone realized that the name "Mama" is actually the nickname of his girlfriend, NOT his mother.

That should be brought up in closing arguments.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6966 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 8:45 am to
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Has anyone realized that the name "Mama" is actually the nickname of his girlfriend, NOT his mother.



Yeah that floored me... Not sure if it matters though.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 8:47 am to
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Has anyone realized that the name "Mama" is actually the nickname of his girlfriend, NOT his mother.



Yes that was brought up on day 1 or 2 in testimony.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 8:48 am to
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Expected 1-2 hours each.


Being on a jury is one of the most overrated things ever because of stuff like this. It is so incredibly boring. Last time I was on a jury, we had to watch the entire police cam footage of the incident. It was well over an hour long. The actual action part was 10 minutes.
This post was edited on 4/19/21 at 8:49 am
Posted by dragonNRG45
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2019
725 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 8:48 am to
It matters because he was calling out to his drug addict gf and apologizing to her for ODing. Remember, she wanted him to quit and did not want him hanging out with Morries Hall
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2651 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 8:49 am to
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He should’ve rendered aid as soon as he found out he didn’t have a pulse. That to me was the problem point.
Did he have a duty to render aid though? The two states I policed in had no such requirement.
Posted by TitleistProV1X
Member since Nov 2015
3649 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 9:03 am to
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Did he have a duty to render aid though? The two states I policed in had no such requirement.

That to me is what I would be focusing on if I was a juror. Was he required to render aid? If so, what is the consequence for not rendering aid?
Posted by 3D
NJ
Member since Sep 2013
1391 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 9:10 am to
Why is Dr. Drew reading Court rules....
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
24079 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 9:17 am to
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Why is Dr. Drew reading Court rules....


This is part of the trial. He has to tell the jury exactly what he's been charged with. And exactly what that means in that state. Not everyone knows exactly what 3rd, 2nd, 1st degree murder/manslaughter exactly are.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6966 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 9:22 am to
Jury instructions are confusing.... to me anyway
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 9:22 am to
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This is part of the trial. He has to tell the jury exactly what he's been charged with. And exactly what that means in that state. Not everyone knows exactly what 3rd, 2nd, 1st degree murder/manslaughter exactly are.



I cant see how 12 people are going to agree on the same charge....those are a lot of charges and choices for the jury to pick from.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 9:23 am to
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Jury instructions are confusing.... to me anyway



same here....thats good for DC
Posted by LSU2NO
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
1949 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 9:25 am to
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Yes that was brought up on day 1 or 2 in testimony.


But the interesting thing is that the defense did not bring up the mischaracterization of GF calling out to his girlfriend. The prosecution should have been rebutted.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
25349 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 9:25 am to
The judge is still rambling....I could not recall much he is saying.

To me, this favors the defense, because I can't recall his instructions beyond a reasonable doubt!
Posted by Jrv2damac
KS
Member since Mar 2004
73200 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 9:29 am to
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Being on a jury is one of the most overrated things ever


I’ve never heard someone rate it highly
Posted by wileyjones
Member since May 2014
2720 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 9:31 am to
Closing arguments kicking off
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