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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today

Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:45 am to
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:45 am to
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He didn’t mention the missing test. He talked about an arterial blood gas measurement. That’s different.


That is NEW evidence presented by the prosecution...regardless of what you think it is associated with, should be a mistrial
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 10:46 am
Posted by September 1948
Member since Jun 2018
2133 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:45 am to
I wouldn't be surprised if the judge does declare a mistrial.

Judge said he would if the prosecution brought up the test and he let it ride when they bought it up first thing.

Either mistrial right now or good grounds for appeal down the road.

I've been wrong before,though...
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15090 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:46 am to
The black cop on HLN should not be commenting on lab tests at all. He is very ignorant and is giving stupid, incorrect analysis of the test results. I keep waiting for the doc on their panel, to correct his dumbass, but he never does.
Posted by bikerack
NH
Member since Sep 2011
2566 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:47 am to
The slide they referenced said that Floyd's carboxyhemoglobin could have increased by 10-18% (not TO 10-18%).

Even if his number was 2, then a 10-18% increase would only be 2.36 max which is still in the normal range. There really isn't a need for this rebuttal witness.
Posted by Dominate308
South Florida
Member since Jan 2013
2895 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:48 am to
What's the lowest blood ph of someone that can be saved?

Is it possible that a cop can arrive and fight with a person who has a ph low enough, that the person had already crossed that threshold prior to the officer's arrival?

If the answer is yes, then the person was irreversibly dying as he was fighting the police. In fact prior to their arrival.
Posted by Buddy Red
Maringouin, LA
Member since Aug 2007
282 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:49 am to
Nelson pulling his hair out right now...... cause he caught between Scylla and Charybdis.

He could bang on the table for a mistrial, likely warranted.

OR... he lets it ride because he thinks he way ahead, and does not want to give them a chance for a redo.

Murder case previous, find out via one of alternates that two jurors went to crime scene to view lighting night before closing (HIGHLY inappropriate). Some "things" came out on last day, that never again would the State allow to happen again. I begged my team to NOT ask for mistrial. They convinced the young buck at the time that legally and ethically had to. (they were right, but i still felt we were winning) Mind you, the actual jury is deliberating at the time. I ask for mistrial. Judge grants. Thrashes certain jurors. Later find out of the 11 remaining, all were in favor of NG.

So, Nelson might not want mistrial .
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:50 am to
This is fricking bullshite.

They said that Dr. Tobin was coming back to present studies that show narrowing of the hypopharynx and that it was some kind of covid study.

Then Tobin gets on the stand and says the hypopharynx being compressed is just common sense and he doesn’t have any research to prove it.

Complete bullshite. If I was Nelson I would move for mistrial on those grounds alone. The prosecution lied to get him back on the stand to say that compression of the hypopharynx is “common sense”
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93153 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:51 am to
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common sense


has no place in the courtroom
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15952 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:51 am to
quote:

So, Nelson might not want mistrial .


Huge risk=big reward
Posted by Buddy Red
Maringouin, LA
Member since Aug 2007
282 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:51 am to
quote:

The black cop on HLN should not be commenting on lab tests at all. He is very ignorant and is giving stupid, incorrect analysis of the test results. I keep waiting for the doc on their panel, to correct his dumbass, but he never does.


He truly is borderline retarded and if in court and not on tv, would be committing malpractice.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23959 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:52 am to
And we’re back
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15952 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:53 am to
So based off of your experience what do you think the outcome is going to be?
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:54 am to
quote:

That is NEW evidence presented by the prosecution...regardless of what you think it is associated with, should be a mistrial


The carboxyhemoglobin test was a new test (and couldn’t be mentioned)

The arterial blood gas is not a new test, they discussed it previously when talking about Floyd’s carbon dioxide levels.

I’m just trying to be honest with y’all. The prosecution did not violate anything there.

Where I think they fricked up is they said Tobin was going to present new research that proves hypopharynx compression. Instead, he said there is no research because it’s common sense that every doctor knows and we don’t research common sense things.

Now that’s bullshite
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 10:55 am
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15952 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:55 am to
So I guess we are done until Monday. Nice lets send them home for 3 days so they can watch their neighborhoods burn.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:56 am to
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So I guess we are done until Monday. Nice lets send them home for 3 days so they can watch their neighborhoods burn.


And hear all about the missing test.

CNN will do a good job of coaching them to understand the test means chauvin is guilty but they shouldn’t mention they know about the test
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177671 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:56 am to
Judge: “I wish you all a good long weekend of watching Court TV and CNN”
Posted by Stan Switek
Member since Apr 2017
475 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:57 am to
Anyone catch that discussion where Nelson was saying the the prosecution told the judge that Toobin was going to testify about new evidence at 5 pm last night but didn't inform Nelson that the test existed until 8 am this morning?
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15952 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:58 am to
He should have told the one jurist who lives in the neighborhood where the current riots are taking place " Good luck hope you make it till monday".
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25893 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 11:00 am to
Defense rests?
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15952 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 11:01 am to
Yes
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