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Posted on 4/12/21 at 11:51 am to momentoftruth87
Lol that dude bolted
Posted on 4/12/21 at 11:51 am to thedogman
He comes across as very condescending, smug, and biased.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 11:52 am to Rebel
Apparently the shite like blocked arteries, heart disease, high blood pressure, stuff that has been putting motherfrickers into the ground for centuries are immune to George Floyd and couldn't have been a reason for death outside the knee on the neck. lol
Posted on 4/12/21 at 11:52 am to swolverine
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The prone position is part of police procedure, right?
Chauvin reduced force by putting his knee on Floyd when he could have tazed him.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 11:53 am to momentoftruth87
Then he would be on trial for murder by taser.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 11:55 am to TDTOM
The defense will have experts that say the opposite of this guy.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 12:02 pm to Rebel
I have no idea if Chauvin is guilty or not and honestly I don’t care. However, I just watched a few minutes of the trial on CNN to see what they were going to say and after a recess, their contributors came on to comment. One lady actually said that the defense talking about “paraganglioma” (medical term) is forcing the jury to get confused and not have the “clarity the jury needs to be able to understand”.
I shite you not, she actually said that. So blatantly stating that the jury is too stupid to understand some terminology is okay but saying that if Floyd had just listened to the cops he would still be alive is racist and taboo.
Again, I have no dog in this fight but as an unbiased observer, that shite was ridiculous.
I shite you not, she actually said that. So blatantly stating that the jury is too stupid to understand some terminology is okay but saying that if Floyd had just listened to the cops he would still be alive is racist and taboo.
Again, I have no dog in this fight but as an unbiased observer, that shite was ridiculous.
This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 4/12/21 at 12:05 pm to Rebel
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This guy is turning himself into a pretzel and coming off as not being genuine.
I find a guy that searches for ways to not answer the question, and parses his words, to avoid a real answer, to be dishonest.
His first few answers toed the line, and he was going to stick with it, even though nobody knows if it is speculation.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 12:05 pm to TDsngumbo
Did you expect anything different from CNN?
Posted on 4/12/21 at 12:08 pm to roadGator
I mean 90% blockage
History of very high untreated high blood pressure.
Drugs
Plus we haven’t even gotten into excited delirium.
History of very high untreated high blood pressure.
Drugs
Plus we haven’t even gotten into excited delirium.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 12:11 pm to Rebel
The thing I find most surprising after 2 weeks of the state presenting their case, not one single mention of a racial motive.
And nobody from the media has mentioned it either.
But businesses will burn and there will be additional loss of life because of that false narrative.
And nobody from the media has mentioned it either.
But businesses will burn and there will be additional loss of life because of that false narrative.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 12:22 pm to Rebel
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I mean 90% blockage
A forensic pathologist on HLN is basically saying that last guy is full of shite. He said that the 90% blockage, plus 70% on the other one, is definitely in play in anything that happened to GF. He basically said to discount that importance is ridiculous. They hustled him off and replayed some of this morning's testimony that damned Chauvin.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 12:23 pm to Rebel
Has the prosecution or the defense brought up the number of times Floyd said he could not breathe while no one was touching him?
This is huge IMHO...
It points to OD or heart failure
This is huge IMHO...
It points to OD or heart failure
Posted on 4/12/21 at 12:28 pm to ApexTiger
Has anyone mentioned the fact that the judge let it slip earlier when he was ruling on the motion that closing arguments are starting next monday? He was saying the jury would be sequestered at that point...
Did I just hear him wrong? I may try and go back and listen in again.
EDIT - the judge said "I will sequester them on Monday when we anticipate doing closings"
So...looks like the State will wrap up soon and the defense won't take very long...
Did I just hear him wrong? I may try and go back and listen in again.
EDIT - the judge said "I will sequester them on Monday when we anticipate doing closings"
So...looks like the State will wrap up soon and the defense won't take very long...
This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 4/12/21 at 12:50 pm to bikerack
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EDIT - the judge said "I will sequester them on Monday when we anticipate doing closings"
So...looks like the State will wrap up soon and the defense won't take very long...
which then means I wouldn't anticipate the defendant himself taking the stand
Posted on 4/12/21 at 12:51 pm to bikerack
Judge did say it would probably be 2 weeks long.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 12:54 pm to RLDSC FAN
So just popping in this thread. I have not been following this thread at all, or watching any of the trial.
I have read some quick sparknotes, articles, and watched video clips. Based upon that and everything I have seen regarding the full arrest video from bodycam, along with the amount of drugs in his system..
I'm willing to come on here and say I have changed my stance regarding Chauvin. For a good bit of tiem, I have been 100% in that he deserved to go to prison. At this point, I honestly don't see that happening anymkre. There's too many variables. Some medical experts saying the drugs killed him. Some saying asphyxiation killed him. Perhaps it was both? Idk.
Combine that with the fact that Floyd was very high in the arrest encounter. I could tell that from the original video that went viral a year ago. He was very high, and stated that he couldn't breathe before he was on the ground. From the video, to me it looked like he was hyperventilating, almost having a panic-attack. Again, perhaps already being in a state of where he's hyperventilating and then losing even more oxygen breathway from Chauvin was probably a losing combination.
But the fact is you can't convict someone on a "perhaps Chauvin contributed to Floyd's death, we aren't 100% sure". That's called reasonable doubt, and I believe there is definitely reasonable doubt regarding this case, so yeah, Chauvin will walk. (May God have mercy on Minneapolis and the entire country. I do not look forward to hearing that verdict)
However, I do believe he was still in the wrong. Once Floyd was clearly passed out, and Chauvin did not move an inch for another 2-3 minutes until paramedics came in, I still find that to be bad police work. Once Floyd passed out, then that should be time imo for the hold to be loosened a bit. Check his pulse, move into another position, etc. Continuing to restrain someone who is passed out and potentially dying, with a knee on their shoulder/neck/back is just a bad look and I believe the police can do better than that.
I have read some quick sparknotes, articles, and watched video clips. Based upon that and everything I have seen regarding the full arrest video from bodycam, along with the amount of drugs in his system..
I'm willing to come on here and say I have changed my stance regarding Chauvin. For a good bit of tiem, I have been 100% in that he deserved to go to prison. At this point, I honestly don't see that happening anymkre. There's too many variables. Some medical experts saying the drugs killed him. Some saying asphyxiation killed him. Perhaps it was both? Idk.
Combine that with the fact that Floyd was very high in the arrest encounter. I could tell that from the original video that went viral a year ago. He was very high, and stated that he couldn't breathe before he was on the ground. From the video, to me it looked like he was hyperventilating, almost having a panic-attack. Again, perhaps already being in a state of where he's hyperventilating and then losing even more oxygen breathway from Chauvin was probably a losing combination.
But the fact is you can't convict someone on a "perhaps Chauvin contributed to Floyd's death, we aren't 100% sure". That's called reasonable doubt, and I believe there is definitely reasonable doubt regarding this case, so yeah, Chauvin will walk. (May God have mercy on Minneapolis and the entire country. I do not look forward to hearing that verdict)
However, I do believe he was still in the wrong. Once Floyd was clearly passed out, and Chauvin did not move an inch for another 2-3 minutes until paramedics came in, I still find that to be bad police work. Once Floyd passed out, then that should be time imo for the hold to be loosened a bit. Check his pulse, move into another position, etc. Continuing to restrain someone who is passed out and potentially dying, with a knee on their shoulder/neck/back is just a bad look and I believe the police can do better than that.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 12:56 pm to QJenk
How can you have an opinion with out watching or keeping up with the trial?
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:10 pm to QJenk
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have not been following this thread at all, or watching any of the trial.
You should have ended your post after this sentence.
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