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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today

Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:04 pm to
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
11016 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:04 pm to
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He also has no experience in trials and comes from another country.


He has experience in malpractice trials.

Also, paragangliomas are not the 10% tumor. Those are pheochromocytomas - which is highly related but not completely synonymous.
Posted by hnds2th
Member since May 2019
3096 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:05 pm to
This guy is a joke. Smoking won’t kill you. Drugs won’t kill you. COVID won’t kill you. Only DCs knee on your back will kill you.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46352 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:07 pm to
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Ugh, Nelson needs to let this lung elasticity thing go


No, he shouldn't. This is pertinent to the prosecution's claim Chauvin kneeling on Floyd is what killed him. He's showing that there were a multitude of other factors involved, to include the effects of fentanyl ingestion.

Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:08 pm to
I’m behind so I haven’t gotten to the cross yet, but this doctor’s testimony is full of bullshite. He’s very good at making it sound like his conclusions are based in science but he is completely full of shite. I’m saying this as someone who has a medical degree just like he does.
Posted by Aced
Member since Jul 2013
1672 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:08 pm to
What a disaster this cross-examination is. Very hard to follow and every time Nelson tries to make a point the witness refutes him with very credibly sounding science jargo
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23012 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:09 pm to
Wow. Court TV cut out right as Nelson was asking about the peak ingestion time of Fentanyl.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
11016 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:09 pm to
He referenced his long week comment from Monday.

I like Nelson’s humor, although I’m not sure how much the jury does.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26739 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:09 pm to
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No, he shouldn't. This is pertinent to the prosecution's claim Chauvin kneeling on Floyd is what killed him. He's showing that there were a multitude of other factors involved, to include the effects of fentanyl ingestion


Yea, but this guy won’t agree with Nelson. Continuing to try and get him to say it, and not getting him to say it, makes it come across as important to the defense for him to say it.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46352 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:10 pm to
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Yea, but this guy won’t agree with Nelson.


He just did.

Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26739 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:10 pm to
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Wow. Court TV cut out right as Nelson was asking about the peak ingestion time of Fentanyl.


Dr agreed that’s you would expect peak to be 5 mins after ingestion...so, “hypothetically” at 20:23

I say hypothetically, because the judge stated this line of question had to be asked that way, as no proof was shown if/when/how much of the pills GF “ingested”
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 2:12 pm
Posted by triceratops
Member since Sep 2020
463 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:10 pm to
Court TV cut the feed right when Nelson was nailing the “doctor” on GF peaking on drugs
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6968 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:12 pm to
Damn... My feed is down... (court tv livestream)
Posted by hnds2th
Member since May 2019
3096 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:12 pm to
Nelson is just trying to discredit him and all of sudden the doctor has poor hearing and recall. Plus, Nelson pointed out in the very beginning the Dr is doing this for free because he is woke.
Posted by hambones
LA
Member since Nov 2014
1128 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:12 pm to
Yep, let’s cut the feed. He’s hitting the nail on the head.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23012 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:13 pm to
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Dr agreed that’s you would expect peak to be 5 mins after ingestion...so, “hypothetically” at 20:23

I say hypothetically, because the judge stated this line of question had to be asked that way, as no proof was shown if/when/how much of the pills GF “ingested”


Thanks. My meeting ended early so I was getting to catch a bit of the cross and then the feed cut out. I appreciate the update.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46352 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:13 pm to
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Yep, let’s cut the feed. He’s hitting the nail on the head.


The feed is meaningless. People watching the feed won't be deciding the case. The judge and jury will, and they're not reliant on a feed.
Posted by hnds2th
Member since May 2019
3096 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:13 pm to
Cspan- no interruptions
Posted by Aced
Member since Jul 2013
1672 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:13 pm to
Best point Nelson made the whole cross was when he tried to imply the witness was biased and had an agenda based off his agreement to do the work for free and previous meetings with the prosecution. Rest was a total disaster
Posted by Tbonepatron
Member since Aug 2013
8462 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:14 pm to
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Wow. Court TV cut out right as Nelson was asking about the peak ingestion time of Fentanyl.


Posted by dragonNRG45
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2019
725 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:14 pm to
Why is the feed down? Hasn't happened before during trial
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