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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today

Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:36 pm to
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:36 pm to
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Where does it say homicide?



on separate page from the document you quoted. LINK

quote:

Manner of death: Homicide
How injury occurred: Decedent experienced a cardiopulmonary arrest while
being restrained by law enforcement officer(s)



the definition of homicide means 1 person caused another's death. This means that the LEO's efforts to restrain floyd caused cardiopulmonary arrest.

CP arrest is medical speak for your heart and lungs stopped, you died.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15060 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:37 pm to
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Maybe even a dentist who calls himself doctor.
My money is on chiropractor.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:38 pm to
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My money is on chiropractor.



pay up son
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24240 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:39 pm to
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Ive done so multiple time

You have me excited and I missed this nugget in your response.



Another outright lie.

Multiple posters asked you. And my post broken down to the simplest element of if you're certified by any of the 50 states prompted you to answer after you were evasive and twisting words finally got you to respond, "yes, I'm certified".

Now you're trying to distort facts of easily verified text on the internet?

You aren't too bright.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:39 pm to
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This means that the LEO's efforts to restrain floyd caused cardiopulmonary arrest.


But it doesn't. It means he died while being restrained. As I said, homicide could be cause his dealer gave him drugs which caused his death.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
102119 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:40 pm to
I told you yestereday, the coroner's definition of homicide is not a legal term.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:40 pm to
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My money is on chiropractor.


pay up son


Wow, even more useless than we thought.
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:40 pm to
what , couldn't get into dental school?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89799 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:42 pm to
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You aren't too bright.


This thing is still at it?
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:42 pm to
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please tell me more about your EMT credentials and how that makes you more qualified or knowledgeable than the 3 medical examiners who disagree with you. - me


You keep trying to say this and I've never once claimed it. - you



quote:


I will answer as a nationally certified EMT. - you




lmao. first your a nationally certified EMT, now youve never claimed it.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:43 pm to
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I told you yestereday, the coroner's definition of homicide is not a legal term.



From the same document he posted

quote:

Manner of death classification is a statutory function of the medical examiner,
as part of death certification for purposes of vital statistics and public health.
Manner of death is not a legal determination of culpability or intent, and
should not be used to usurp the judicial process. Such decisions are outside
the scope of the Medical Examiner’s role or authority.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:44 pm to
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IAmNERD


still waiting for your expertise and info that proves 3/3 medical examiners incorrect.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
102119 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:45 pm to
that is correct. Throwing homicide around in regards to the coroner's report does not have the same weight as it would from the DA.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:47 pm to
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I told you yestereday, the coroner's definition of homicide is not a legal term.


From the same document he posted


I never claimed it to be a legal determination of culpability. It does mean chauvin caused floyds death, which is what I have been saying. that is contrary to what folks claim that it was OD.

This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 8:48 pm
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24240 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:48 pm to
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CP arrest is medical speak for your heart and lungs stopped, you died.

True, yet you have yet to point to DC being the cause of his death.

Yet you have yet to have linked, or proven any scientific reasoning, beyond a reasonable doubt (pretty goddamned important in the United States of America is the 14th amendment) other than saying "3/3 ME said so" (which is an outright fabrication) that DC was the cause of GF's death.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:50 pm to
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It does mean chauvin caused floyds death,


But it doesn't, it means something did. It doesn't say what.

Did you miss that lesson on forensic pathology in chiropractic school?

quote:

How injury occurred: Decedent experienced a cardiopulmonary arrest while
being restrained by law enforcement officer(s)
Other significant conditions: Arteriosclerotic and hypertensive heart disease;
fentanyl intoxication; recent methamphetamine use
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 8:51 pm
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:51 pm to
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lmao. first your a nationally certified EMT, now youve never claimed it.


Either you can’t read or you’re trolling
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15060 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:51 pm to
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pay up son

What the address of the methadone clinic that I need to send the check?
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:51 pm to

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True, yet you have yet to point to DC being the cause of his death.


except for ya know the medical documents, consensus of the 3 medical examiners, and video evidence all point to that.

quote:


Yet you have yet to have linked, or proven any scientific reasoning, beyond a reasonable doubt (pretty goddamned important in the United States of America is the 14th amendment) other than saying "3/3 ME said so" (which is an outright fabrication) that DC was the cause of GF's death.


well im just disproving the false narrative that he had a fatal OD. I never said anything close to 'the ME is the judge and jury'
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89799 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:52 pm to
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because you use context and other facts. If he's found home alone with drugs in his system and no other signs that point to a cause of death yes, you probably rule it an OD... because there is no other potential explanation.


Killed then stuck with a needle is one explanation.

I know this isn't a movie, but this whole circus basically has been.
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